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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"it is not possible to go from where we were last season to a top 8 side. Salford signed star players and failed, Hull KR signed a few real quality players and failed. Remember where we are coming from, rock bottom, the very worst side in the League by a long way, a side that lets in 1000 points in a season almost 40 points a match. Our realistic goal is to improve, be competitive, defend, play with heart and desire, get fit, tackle, get some structure in the rugby side of the club, set up a rugby committee and then see if we can beat a SL side in the middle 8`s. Top 8 is just not realistic, Widnes should be our goal, look how they played and try and match them for attitude etc etc. Finishing 3rd in Middle 8`s would be a real achievement and would show a real step forward. Anyone thinking that we are anywhere near the same level as Cas are mad, they are light years ahead of us on the pitch.'"
Of course it's possible that's exactly what your beloved Cas did. Cas are not light years ahead give it a rest.
That said I concede it will take an almighty efforts by all concerned and some of those who's attitude concerns me are still at the club - hence the new signings at all levels are more critical than normal.
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| 2011 we finished 2nd to bottom and only won 5 games and in 2012 we made the 8 on signings that didnt really get pundits thinking we would make the playoffs. Hard task but not impossible and stupid to write us off now.
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| Quote ="supercat"2011 we finished 2nd to bottom and only won 5 games and in 2012 we made the 8 on signings that didnt really get pundits thinking we would make the playoffs. Hard task but not impossible and stupid to write us off now.'"
Exactly, some posters just revel in misery.
Funny isn't it that when Kear was in charge and Cas were easy beats I don't recall any of misery brigaded claiming we were "light years" ahead of Cas.
We may well be utter crap again as this year - could happen easily but it's by no means a certainty just like a top 8 isn't an impossibility.
We'll have some idea how we are doing by game 4-6 and not before but some folk never learn in my most humble opinion.
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| I really can't see a top 8 finish, but, if we finish bottom but are taking confidence and wins into the middle 8's then we again only need to beat the four championship teams and one SL club and we'd be ok, a bit negative I know. But in two weeks with three or four quality signings I may well be singing a different song.
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| Quote ="JINJER"I really can't see a top 8 finish, but, if we finish bottom but are taking confidence and wins into the middle 8's then we again only need to beat the four championship teams and one SL club and we'd be ok, a bit negative I know. But in two weeks with three or four quality signings I may well be singing a different song.'"
Yep it certainly boils down to certain signings - personally think just 2 or 3 would do it, mainly need some brains.
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| OK so far so good the 3 signings are fine.let's suck it and see IMO we need a little general at scrum half absolute must for me.!!!
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| Quote ="cosmicat"OK so far so good the 3 signings are fine.let's suck it and see IMO we need a little general at scrum half absolute must for me.!!!'"
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| Quote ="cosmicat"OK so far so good the 3 signings are fine.let's suck it and see IMO we need a little general at scrum half absolute must for me.!!!'"
Without question !!!!
Next I would say a classy fullback and a good creative hooker. Also centres a bit weak.
However with the right three signings we probably have enough to fit in around them and make a decent fist of it.
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| One of the things concern me is the lack of cover in key positions . did mc say we have 8 new signings to announce or was I dreaming it ?
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| Quote ="wtid71"My thoughts exactly. Only on the Wakey forum do we get a thread with such a title. A shocker!'"
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| Quote ="cosmicat"One of the things concern me is the lack of cover in key positions . did mc say we have 8 new signings to announce or was I dreaming it ?'"
Does the season start next week?
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| A general at scrum half would have improved last seasons performances as timmy had an awful season but when he was at the races we had a chance in those games though that wasn't often.We had a paper thin squad last year and that showed you cant go that route when injurys kicked in.Yes the signings so far are not outstanding but are going to cover that shortfall I recon we will see some good signings shortly keep the faith anything can happen we could have a cracking season.
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| What are you all moaning about because according to MC "we don't know how well off we really are". I can't believe some of you have the audacity to question his judgement because after all we did win three league games last season.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What are you all moaning about because according to MC "we don't know how well off we really are". I can't believe some of you have the audacity to question his judgement because after all we did win three league games last season.'" see you still got a good supply of lemons
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"What are you all moaning about because according to MC "we don't know how well off we really are". I can't believe some of you have the audacity to question his judgement because after all we did win three league games last season.'"
If anybody has the right to moan it's you scarlet luv, despite all your business acumen, your unique man management skills, plus your undoubted talent spotting skills, not to mention the thirty years you've sat on your fat @rse sitting in the stand coaching the players the chairman must be a complete idiot to completely ignore your worthwhile input, it must be so frustrating when you offer such a range of advice from the obvious qualities you have in your possession, I for one have every sympathy for you shame on him
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| Quote ="cosmicat"One of the things concern me is the lack of cover in key positions . did mc say we have 8 new signings to announce or was I dreaming it ?'"
He said on Twitter a short while since that we had 8/9 signed up and possibly 3 more to sign on the dotted line.
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| Quote ="chissitt"If anybody has the right to moan it's you scarlet luv, despite all your business acumen, your unique man management skills, plus your undoubted talent spotting skills, not to mention the thirty years you've sat on your fat @rse sitting in the stand coaching the players the chairman must be a complete idiot to completely ignore your worthwhile input, it must be so frustrating when you offer such a range of advice from the obvious qualities you have in your possession, I for one have every sympathy for you shame on him
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If only life was as predictable as you.
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| I have nothing against those running the club but until they show they have learnt from last season and are not again trying to do it on the cheap. I reserve the right to continue to highlight their shortcomings which many of you appear to forget or ignore still blinded by our survival.
How many of you would accept a further season ticket increase if this was Ted or Glover in charge and how many clubs do not have a payment plan. This is not a time to ask people to pay out over £200.00 and will do nothing to encourage new supporters just the usual on here and those on MC's Twitter account.
When I see something that shows we are actually serious about being competitive next season then I will be the first to congratulate the club but currently I am still waiting. I know you will say our new coach but he can only work with what is put in front of him and let's not forget with last season's squad that was only one game against SL opposition.
Does anyone know what our current squad looks like, don't forget we still have Howarth on the books next season.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have nothing against those running the club but until they show they have learnt from last season and are not again trying to do it on the cheap. I reserve the right to continue to highlight their shortcomings which many of you appear to forget or ignore still blinded by our survival.
How many of you would accept a further season ticket increase if this was Ted or Glover in charge and how many clubs do not have a payment plan. This is not a time to ask people to pay out over £200.00 and will do nothing to encourage new supporters just the usual on here and those on MC's Twitter account.
When I see something that shows we are actually serious about being competitive next season then I will be the first to congratulate the club but currently I am still waiting. I know you will say our new coach but he can only work with what is put in front of him and let's not forget with last season's squad that was only one game against SL opposition.
Does anyone know what our current squad looks like, don't forget we still have Howarth on the books next season.'"
Give it a rest mate especially on the season tickets or buy the club and put your own strategies in place I understand its available fo a quid. Give it a go. All the clubs aee flogging tickets I accept that some if not all will have payment plans. Its easy if you dont want to pay up front pay on the gate or get a 0% credit card its really not difficult
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"If only life was as predictable as you.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have nothing against those running the club'"
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I have nothing against those running the club but until they show they have learnt from last season and are not again trying to do it on the cheap. I reserve the right to continue to highlight their shortcomings which many of you appear to forget or ignore still blinded by our survival.'"
You'll have a hard time trying to convince anyone there, how do you know they have not learned from last season? more guesswork from you perhaps! you've already laboured the point about your opinions of the owners, but why do you insult the rest of us who might agree with you to some extent but do not take your hard line stance on the chairman.
Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernel"How many of you would accept a further season ticket increase if this was Ted or Glover in charge and how many clubs do not have a payment plan. This is not a time to ask people to pay out over £200.00 and will do nothing to encourage new supporters just the usual on here and those on MC's Twitter account.'"
Not sure of the point you are trying to make comparing this chairman with the previous two, it's like trying to compare apples with oranges, I would suggest that the increase in prices will have a lot to do with new contracts for the players coming in and other increases, I do agree though that the club could have put in place an instalment plan, but there must be a reason for this so why make a big deal of it if you don't know the full circumstances, as for how many other clubs don't have a payment plan in place, my answer to that is I neither know or even care, ask me one on pop music.
Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"When I see something that shows we are actually serious about being competitive next season then I will be the first to congratulate the club but currently I am still waiting. I know you will say our new coach but he can only work with what is put in front of him and let's not forget with last season's squad that was only one game against SL opposition.
Does anyone know what our current squad looks like, don't forget we still have Howarth on the books next season.'"
Your starting to repeat yourself here scarlet luv, nowt new there though. I'm not going to argue over the new coach and the new signings eventually coming in as I'm sure he'll work well with what he's got, but hey ho if you want to continue living in the past if it's what turns you on then you go for it dear, Your getting a tad silly now asking supporters if they know what the squad looks like, and as for Howarth I'm not sure if he'll be just a squad player without doing him a disservice, but I'm sure that when he's asked to play he'll not let the club down, unlike you luv.
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How many of you would accept a further season ticket increase if this was Ted or Glover in charge and how many clubs do not have a payment plan. This is not a time to ask people to pay out over £200.00 and will do nothing to encourage new supporters just the usual on here and those on MC's Twitter account.
When I see something that shows we are actually serious about being competitive next season then I will be the first to congratulate the club but currently I am still waiting. I know you will say our new coach but he can only work with what is put in front of him and let's not forget with last season's squad that was only one game against SL opposition.
Does anyone know what our current squad looks like, don't forget we still have Howarth on the books next season.'"
Unless I'm very much mistaken the season ticket prices are less than last year not more, but don't let that get in the way of your character assassinations. Admittedly for some, the lack of a payment plan may be an issue but without knowing how many issues the cub had with people on payment plans last year then it's hard to say whether that is the right decision or not.
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| Quote ="Fordy"Unless I'm very much mistaken the season ticket prices are less than last year not more, but don't let that get in the way of your character assassinations. Admittedly for some, the lack of a payment plan may be an issue but without knowing how many issues the cub had with people on payment plans last year then it's hard to say whether that is the right decision or not.'"
MC stated on twitter that the Limited company that runs the club could not get a consumer credit licence hence no payment plan.
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| Quote ="chissitt"I would suggest that the increase in prices will have a lot to do with new contracts for the players coming in and other increases, I do agree though that the club could have put in place an instalment plan, but there must be a reason for this so why make a big deal of it if you don't know the full circumstances.'"
Quote ="Tricky2309"MC stated on twitter that the Limited company that runs the club could not get a consumer credit licence hence no payment plan.'"
There you go scarlet, a sad yet simple answer, shame it does not fit in with your greater plans to ridicule and sully his name at every opportunity.
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