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Someone said smith had a great first half. I think with the possession we had he didnt control the game enough. A couple of decent short kicks. But I saw little else. If he plays and the team roll their sleeves up then we will see.
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| What about Owen at fullback. He played there for cas for a while. I know he played junior rugby at fullback too. I wouldn't want to stop Jowitt getting a. Few games but Owen has been one of our better players
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| I am not sure if he is one, but from some of his efforts this season (especially defensively) I wonder if Hall is one of the players that doesn't care. I apologise if he isn't one but it is just my opinion from what I have seen.
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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"I am not sure if he is one, but from some of his efforts this season (especially defensively) I wonder if Hall is one of the players that doesn't care. I apologise if he isn't one but it is just my opinion from what I have seen.'"
And as i put on the interview thread here exactly is the problem now. Hall might be one, we don't know. But people will now suspect anyone whether guilty or not and thats not good for those who are giving it their best shot.
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| Jowitt's our only recognised full back, would it be ridiculous to give him a chance to prove himself when all else has failed, he can't be any worse than the players we've used, if he's going to kick on then give him a chance to prove himself if he's not ready just yet then so be it, at least we've tried something different, the other two young uns didn't let us down why should he.
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| Quote ="60sCat"Hope our BEST players are on the field. Need to establish a good rapport with us and vice versa.'"
That is subjective as the various combinations are endless.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"And as i put on the interview thread here exactly is the problem now. Hall might be one, we don't know. But people will now suspect anyone whether guilty or not and thats not good for those who are giving it their best shot.'"
Actually, it doesn't matter who wasn't bothered under Webster.
It's all about who wants to play for Trinity now.
Whoever is in charge for the weekend should tell the players that they need to regain some pride and impress the new coach, who is sure to be
taking an interest in Sundays game.
Although I agree that the youngsters deserve a chance, we have to get back to performing and Sunday is the first chance for the senior players to show that they want to play for Trinity.
It's fairly obvious that a number of players didn't want to put it in for Webster (for whatever reason), let them show that they want to play pro SL.
If they still aren't bothered then lets go with a few more youngsters but, we still have to try and get back on track and find some form for the back end of the season.
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| Well from what I have been told this morning one player told by Webster he was going out on loan has now been told he is not and in squad for Sunday.Both under Agar and Webster he would get the odd game pull up tree stumps even at prop even though he is not big enough for and be then shipped out on loan/dual reg.OK he has been injured this season so New York bar has part of his wish come true will we also see Sammut come in from the cold.This set of players with the exception of a few need to start and give it some as who knows like us looking around the ground for potential new coach he could be there looking at his potential players and if like me and many more if he thinks any of them are just going through the motions they might not make his squad and then who would look at giving them a contract due to attitude.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"I would go
Jowitt
Owen
Lynne
Collis
Johnstone
Sammutt
Smith
Scruton
McShane
Anderson
Anakin
Molloy
Washbrook
Subs
Godinet
Ali
Paea
D Smith (if fit)/Crowther'"
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| Quote ="TRB"Was going - still going.
But going with a very different viewing point!'"
You going to stand with someone else this weekend then, instead of next to me as usual ????
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| Quote ="les-goose"Well from what I have been told this morning one player told by Webster he was going out on loan has now been told he is not and in squad for Sunday.Both under Agar and Webster he would get the odd game pull up tree stumps even at prop even though he is not big enough for and be then shipped out on loan/dual reg.OK he has been injured this season so New York bar has part of his wish come true will we also see Sammut come in from the cold.This set of players with the exception of a few need to start and give it some as who knows like us looking around the ground for potential new coach he could be there looking at his potential players and if like me and many more if he thinks any of them are just going through the motions they might not make his squad and then who would look at giving them a contract due to attitude.'"
Excellent, hopefully being held back hasn't hindered his development too much and he fulfils his potential.
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| Was going as lad is playing in junior tournament before game so got a discounted ticket. I wasnt happy about going a few weeks ago and was well cheesed off after Sunday. Feel much better now and more optimistic.
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| I am going with a different viewing point even though I was going anyway. I am happy Webster has gone and I am happy the club are not rushing into a decision for the next coach. I would rather the club appoint the right man even if it takes a few weeks. This is the biggest appointment since the Kear great escape!
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| Ali won't be playing this week. Got his ankle in a brace and on crutches.
I'd go with;
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Riley / Owen
Lyne
Collis
Johnstone
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Smith
Anderson
McShane
Scruton
Crowther
Washbrook
Kavanagh
Godinet
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Paea
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This isn't a dig at Kirmond - because personally I think Kirmond has been one of the players that show their commitment to the club - But player welfare comes first and the guy really needs a break!
Also there is potential to have 4 home grown players in that squad. 4 more than we had sunday...
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I have faith in Hall, think he's shown some good flashes which could be more effective behind a rejuvenated team, needs to stop with the poor touch kicks though!
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| Does anyone know how long Matty Ashurst is out for?
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| A few changes here and there would do me. Those that have been playing week in week out and delivering nothing should be replaced, they've had their chance, far too many in fact. Godinet not in the 17 last week was baffling, Sammut isn't everyone's cup of tea but he deserves a chance at least in the halves so Miller and maybe Smith would be dropped for me. I would have Annakin in if fit every day of the week, this kid runs it in hard every time, tackles well and never shirks responsibility. Lyne didn't make it last week but i'd have him back in and would have Ryan in in place of Kirmond who needs a rest. Let's see who Dickens goes for and see if it makes any difference with Webster gone. I'm looking forward to finding out what the squad is and seeing the game come Sunday afternoon. It's vital now that we get back to some positivity and build from there.
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| Sammut in for Miller, but leave Tim where he is.
As some have already said he 'ran the show' first half against Leigh.
If the rest are not where they should be on attack Smith is made to look ordinary.
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| I don't agree that Sammut just deserves a chance because he is there.
If he shows up in training or when on loan then so be it but I haven't seen anything to make me change my mind on that.
My preferred choice would be Miller at fullback, Godinet at SO and Smith at Scrum half.
If McShane needs a rest, we'll have to use Washbrook for a while.
I'm not sure about Hall at the moment. He isn't impressing me enough, even though he is actually the one making some breaks.
Kirmond is a question mark for me.
I said to my brother that he didn't seem to be doing anything when he went off but clearly he left a hole as they scored 3 tries while he wasn't there.
But young legs are clearly needed so I like Annakin coming back in
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| Quote ="milopolly"Sammut in for Miller, but leave Tim where he is.
As some have already said he 'ran the show' first half against Leigh.
If the rest are not where they should be on attack Smith is made to look ordinary.'"
Quite - how can Tim run the show with no possession! If we had gained any element of control in that second half, then we would have won. But then we wouldn't have changed coach either!
If the price for SL survival is losing at home to Leigh, then I'll take it. We have to make this situation work for us now!
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| Poptart not looking for an argument but why do you want Miller at fullback? Last year IIRC you thought Sammut should play fullback instead of 6 and that was a disaster. IMO Sammut needs a run at 6 alongside Smith, last year Warrington away these two were paired and it proved successful. halfbacks are not the answer for fullback, just because Tomkins was a success doesn't mean it will work for every halfback.
Craig Hall is an enigma. He wears the 1 shirt, but watching him this season just reminds me how badly we miss a proper out and out fullback, such as Matty Blaymire or Richie Mathers. Neither set the world alight, Blaymire slow in attack, Mathers shaky in defence, but both would be better options than any we have right now.
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| Ashurst was in the team the last time it won a SL game. Thought they said out 3 months with groin injury first week of March which may mean mid June?
Need a hooker on the bench to interchange with McShane. I think the 17 may be.....
1. Hall
2. Owen
3. Collis
4. Lynne
5. Riley
6. Sammut
7. T.Smith
8. Scruton
9. McShane
10.Anderson
11.Ryan
12.Kirmond
13.Washbrook
Subs. Godinet, Paea, Kavanaugh, Annakin
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| Just a thought, is Kavanagh allowed to play Sunday?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Just a thought, is Kavanagh allowed to play Sunday?'"
If Dan Smith is fit he'd be ahead of Kavanagh who hasn't had much impact since his arrival on loan.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"If Dan Smith is fit he'd be ahead of Kavanagh who hasn't had much impact since his arrival on loan.'"
Cheers, what I mean't though would Widnes allow him to play against them.
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