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| Head pushing is the new punching, since punching became an automatic sending off.
Sinfield looked totally gone though - he'd lost the plot and massively over-reacted to a bit of shouting from Dorn; sending off was the right decision and provided the disciplinary don't bottle it, he should cool his heels for a few games.
The outrage from some quarters is probably more to do with the player than the act, largely because he is SL's poster boy and the behaviour was so out of character.
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| Hardly in the same league as a Cliff Watson 'Liverpool Kiss' but nevertheless I expect nothing less than a sine die ban !! and the Pope to discontinue the Beatification process.
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| Forgot to mention - what a fantastic game! Full credit to both teams - best televised game of the season so far, by quite some margin.
Must be great to be a Cas fan this season!
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| was pretty shocked when I saw what he did (given it was Sinfield) but it was a bit of a storm in a teacup, wouldn't expect a long ban for it - probably 2-3 games tops.
There has been some massive overreaction to this in some parts
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| "Sir Kev" hath little between the ears.
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| Quote ="TFC""Sir Kev" hath little between the ears.'"
True - it's all moved to the front!
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| One of the best U.S comedies ever.
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| Spoke to a Leeds fan today he reckons he will come away with a 0 ban as saint Kev as a impeccable record
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| So have I, but if I started head-butting folk, then I would have no hesitation in arresting myself !!!!!!
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| Mentioned a few times on Sky last night - particulary from Eddie "due to the demise of the Bulls and no disrespect to Wakefield - could Rhino's Vs Tigers be [size=150THE[/size West Yorkshire derby ?
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| sounds like something Eddie would make a big deal of
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| One of his favourite lines: "so and so team, up against their big city rivals!"
As I've said before - his ability to call the game is limited, so he needs a narrative and if there isn't an obvious one, he creates it.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"Never mentioned you but you obviously thought the cap fits and felt the need to defend yourself (such that it was) however you're wrong, it was a head but.
To continue your analogy, if a police officer saw you do what Sinfield did you'd get arrested.'"
No you wouldn't get arrested. No complaint from Dorn. No injury to Dorn and most police have got no bottle and are lazy. In all honesty the chances of getting arrested are minute and the chances of being charged (with common assault) - zero.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"No you wouldn't get arrested. No complaint from Dorn. No injury to Dorn and most police have got no bottle and are lazy. In all honesty the chances of getting arrested are minute and the chances of being charged (with common assault) - zero.'"
I wonder if you would act as lawyer to my friend's nephew who did get arrested for the same thing as Sinfield did. I am sure with your help he won't get prosecuted.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"No you wouldn't get arrested. No complaint from Dorn. No injury to Dorn and most police have got no bottle and are lazy. In all honesty the chances of getting arrested are minute and the chances of being charged (with common assault) - zero.'"
Really miles off the mark on all counts
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| Technically there at least over a dozen incidents a game that would be classed as an assault. If the contact falls outside the parameters of the rules of the game. Head high shots and all altercations with hand bags and fisty cuffs.
I certainly ain't worried about something like this which Dorns young un could have done harder. (Not right to do from Sinfield but not anything to be pursued criminally). An apology from Sinfield and a handshake is sufficient. Im sure Dorn said to Sinfield after game, call that a headbutt lad. Ive got a granny with arthiritis, a wooden leg and hip replacement that could of done it harder, get us a fosters in yer big goat!!! Whereas such acts like Chase on Taupati etc......
Oh and did anyone see Maafu love tap on Tom Young? Tom Young tweets the photo of Maafu fist square on Youngs face saying "Good Shot mate, go well in the final #rocky ". Maafu replied "Cheers mate. the jersey can overcome us in the heat of battle. I owe you a pint #respect ". That's how to deal with these types of incidents for me anyway.
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| Quote ="chissitt"BTW here's a tip mate don't get in the way of Jinjer when they shout last orders at the bar or you will see the real difference
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I know the difference between a proper full on head butt and what Sinfield did but the fact that it was a poor example doesn't mean it wasn't a head butt.
I don't know Jinjer so I'm not being personal when we disagree therefore it doesn't bother me how aggrieved he feels when he can't get a pint at last orders. That said I was once head butt champion of the world, a title I won after gruelling preliminary rounds in the pubs n clubs of Glasgow, a semi final against a 45 year old bushwhaker from the outback of North Queensland and a hard fought final on the plains of an Indian reservation in Dakota against a male buffalo who'd previously never been beaten.
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| Sinfield was left with no option to do what he did, when Dorn is using dirty underhand tactics, like trying to win the game for his club.
How dare Dorn launch an attack from fullback and when he is tackled try to get a quick play of the ball to keep the momentum going.
Small clubs don't come to their 'big city rivals' own patch and try to beat them, it just not cricket!
They are supposed to lose with dignity, that ensures that Eddie and Stevo can salivate over Sir Kev!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"I know the difference between a proper full on head butt and what Sinfield did but the fact that it was a poor example doesn't mean it wasn't a head butt.
I don't know Jinjer so I'm not being personal when we disagree therefore it doesn't bother me how aggrieved he feels when he can't get a pint at last orders. That said I was once head butt champion of the world, a title I won after gruelling preliminary rounds in the pubs n clubs of Glasgow, a semi final against a 45 year old bushwhaker from the outback of North Queensland and a hard fought final on the plains of an Indian reservation in Dakota against a male buffalo who'd previously never been beaten.'"
Its noticeable that you have been selective with my post choosing to ignore the main and sensible points' of my response to your imo over the top blast at Sinfield without trivialising what he'd done, if you notice at the end of my post there was a cute little man with a yellow face winking at you, that was there to take away any offence you might have taken regarding my off the cuff remark about Jinjer, if you have a problem then take it up with him but I must warn you he gets plenty of head butting practice trying to educate people like you
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| Quote ="chissitt"Its noticeable that you have been selective with my post choosing to ignore the main and sensible points' of my response to your imo over the top blast at Sinfield without trivialising what he'd done, if you notice at the end of my post there was a cute little man with a yellow face winking at you, that was there to take away any offence you might have taken regarding my off the cuff remark about Jinjer, if you have a problem then take it up with him but I must warn you he gets plenty of head butting practice trying to educate people like you
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I also once saw him giving someone a very nasty Chinese burn for stealing one if his avocados!!
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I also once saw him giving someone a very nasty Chinese burn for stealing one if his avocados!!
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He was lucky then, that's usually a headlock offence
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| Quote ="chissitt"Its noticeable that you have been selective with my post choosing to ignore the main and sensible points' of my response to your imo over the top blast at Sinfield without trivialising what he'd done, if you notice at the end of my post there was a cute little man with a yellow face winking at you, that was there to take away any offence you might have taken regarding my off the cuff remark about Jinjer, if you have a problem then take it up with him but I must warn you he gets plenty of head butting practice trying to educate people like you
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What and you think my story about being head butt champion of the world was serious, maybe it was too subtle and I needed a little winking man at the end of it.
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| Quote ="The Avenger"What and you think my story about being head butt champion of the world was serious, maybe it was too subtle and I needed a little winking man at the end of it.
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