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| The first thing I'd be saying to YCP is you sign a contract to build a substantial stand IMMEDIATELY and agree a SHORT TIMESCALE to complete the total upgrade of BV.
If you won't do that then we will hold you to the original contract and the WMDC should not allow any more building work at NM until this is agreed and signed to water tight contracts.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I'd say there's about 10m -15m from pitch edge to the external boundary of the Western Terrace. A simple, slender, steep sided, full length standing terrace should fit. Hopefully the old West Stand sets the precedence for elevation.'"
Too right there's plenty of room to redevelop the a Western terrace a covered terrace full length of the pitch similar to Warrington would easily fit and be a good home terrace. Regarding redeveloping Belle Vue , if done correctly and no bodge job I'm all for it suppose it's better than waiting years and years for an out of town stadium. Is Super Bowl still open ? We could corporate a new Super Bowl with new east stand. I'm getting to like the idea of redeveloping Belle Vue TRINITY FOREVER
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Too right there's plenty of room to redevelop the a Western terrace a covered terrace full length of the pitch similar to Warrington would easily fit and be a good home terrace. Regarding redeveloping Belle Vue , if done correctly and no bodge job I'm all for it suppose it's better than waiting years and years for an out of town stadium. Is Super Bowl still open ? We could corporate a new Super Bowl with new east stand. I'm getting to like the idea of redeveloping Belle Vue TRINITY FOREVER'"
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see us stay at BV but I want to see some construction work going on and not another set of plans and a bucketful of platitudes.
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| Can see it now, plans to develope BV are in place, planning permission will have to go to the council, this could take years, but we are optimistic and urge fans to stick with us again
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| Never market was never the best option, it's location could well have caused the club no end of long term problems. The development of bv ain't much better. I couldn't care less .
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| I will go further. I don't believe a single breeze Block, brick or cubic foot of concrete will be laid at Belle Vue, or at least if som kind of development dos happen, it will be the cheapest possible fudge that can be got away with to make the Businss park happen and will be pathetic and inadequete as a 21st century solution for a stadium. But it is more likely NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN. I am beyond disillusioned. I am sick to my stomach, sick of Wakefield Council, sick of decades of imbeciles, liars and cheats hanging around Wakefield Trinity. We, I am sad to say are doomed as a top flight outfit unless the day ever comes that we have a local authority with integrity and a genuine interst in fostering the club that bears its name and someone who has the money, intellect and desire to take the club forward. Experience shows this to be highly unlikely...and I'm sick of cloak and dagger drivel and hint hints too! Heard it ALL before
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| well I nip out to take the lad training and there's another good thread to read up on
so it looks like the cats out of the bag eh!!
now many of you are feeling so sorry for selves for being strung along again, now this is the reason why the lads have been putting so much effort back into Belle Vue, there was nothing official before we started and there still isn't now, what I do know is that its been to quite for such a long time and I for one and a few more are willing keep this club going.
if we have had double the support down here painting, tidying, and general fixing up of the old girl then this would of been done weeks ago instead we are just plodding along.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"I will go further. I don't believe a single breeze Block, brick or cubic foot of concrete will be laid at Belle Vue, or at least if som kind of development dos happen, it will be the cheapest possible fudge that can be got away with to make the Businss park happen and will be pathetic and inadequete as a 21st century solution for a stadium. But it is more likely NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN. I am beyond disillusioned. I am sick to my stomach, sick of Wakefield Council, sick of decades of imbeciles, liars and cheats hanging around Wakefield Trinity. We, I am sad to say are doomed as a top flight outfit unless the day ever comes that we have a local authority with integrity and a genuine interst in fostering the club that bears its name and someone who has the money, intellect and desire to take the club forward. Experience shows this to be highly unlikely...and I'm sick of cloak and dagger drivel and hint hints too! Heard it ALL before'"
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Can see it now, plans to develope BV are in place, planning permission will have to go to the council, this could take years, but we are optimistic=#FF0000 and urge fans to stick with us again icon_frustrated.gif'" and you will Baz
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| Redeveloping BV has always been a best result for me and I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a fall back bargaining position if NM dragged on.
If the NM development was to go forward, which it appears it has started to, one way or another we were in a good position for either the new stadium or (if the land could be better used or it dragged on) a lump of cash towards securing BV and redeveloping it.
For me NM was/is too far away from the city of Wakefield and only the fact that it appeared to be our saviour made it palatable.
For me (at least) this is very good news!!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"No disrespect, but unless it's concrete don't bother!
Sick to the back teeth of the cloak and dagger nature of all this where some can know but others can't, it's plans for a rugby stadium for Christ's sake not MI6. false statements and lack of movement, excuse after excuse for nothing happening.
It's not a pop at you TRB but I'm fed up of it all!'"
Sounds a bit harsh as TRB and IA and others have put in do much time and effort but I do get your drift.
Who needs another empty statement?!?!
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| Quote ="snowie"icon_eek.gif well I nip out to take the lad training and there's another good thread to read up on
so it looks like the cats out of the bag eh!!
now many of you are feeling so sorry for selves for being strung along again, now this is the reason why the lads have been putting so much effort back into Belle Vue, there was nothing official before we started and there still isn't now, what I do know is that its been to quite for such a long time and I for one and a few more are willing keep this club going.
if we have had double the support down here painting, tidying, and general fixing up of the old girl then this would of been done weeks ago instead we are just plodding along.'"
Appreciate the volunteers hard work but hope the redevelopment of belle Vue is more than painting and tidying.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Appreciate the volunteers hard work but hope the redevelopment of belle Vue is more than painting and tidying.'" lets just say its a start of intentions of keep within stadium regulations
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| like others im losing the will to be interested in wtrlfc, newmarket was a no brainer anyway as i have been scorned on here for saying for years, the so-called fans wont walk to bv rather than watching sky in the pub, never mind actually getting a nose bleed with a 4 mile journey.
as for the doogooders, please continue to do good and i respect that and you as loyaler fans than me, but to be honest, 10 yearsa go i would have been there, but, and i hate this quote, it feels ike rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Appreciate the volunteers hard work but hope the redevelopment of belle Vue is more than painting and tidying.'"
Exactly.
I have nothing but respect for those who have kept Belle Vue going with their voluntary work over the past few months but this is not a solution to the long term future of the club. Nor is keeping the ground just within stadium regulations as Snowie's post seems to say. Stronger bits of this, painted that..it's still a stadium erected in the 20th Century...not even all of it is still there! I am not throwing the toys out. I think we have a justifiable right to be well hacked off by the confimation of what we always suspcted but were reassured was not the case. This Newmarket affair has been one promise after another. It seems some new this all for a fact...well great to know that those of us who just travel 120 mile round journeys are the last to know (though we always did know really) that this stadium is another farce in the long running embarrassment series we have to put up with. Like some posters, I am at the end of my tether. I dare say at some point I will be back but this web of smoke screens and lies is not for me at the moment.
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| What a crock of poop...
Been stringed along again.
We haven't got the money
We haven't got the space
We don't even own the bloody ground.
Pay extortionate rent.
What has become evident is that the mere basics of a structurally sound development are floored.
Gonna be another bodge job.
Planning permission for years..
Refused.. appeal.. then where relegated dont need a new stadium.
Nothing
What about this 108 agreement? Or whatever.. aren't the buildings selling quickly enough.
Realistically with P&R there is no quick need to move into the stadium.
This new stadium was going to make us a viable club for the next 100 years..
with all sorts of facilities and income streams.. this means where going to be a penniless club going from one struggle/crisis to another.
Absolute garbage..
Had enough of these ground shambles with Wakefield I'm only 25.. and in my time supporting the club we must have been going to about 7 locations.
NOT HAPPY!
BV is a sentimental home where memories have been shared but in order to move forward as a big club we all believe it can be.. we cannot be at BV. Just cannot be.
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| How do we expand our hospitality and provide the up to date gym and training facilitiea at BV?
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| The stadium cost was stated as £19 million and that would have included the laying of a pitch which will not now be needed.
So when YCP announce their plans for Belle Vue I expect it to be amazing for £19 million
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| Well I hope that buying the ground back if part of the deal as at new market the rent was going to be lower
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| Quote ="chapster"like others im losing the will to be interested in wtrlfc, newmarket was a no brainer anyway as i have been scorned on here for saying for years, the so-called fans wont walk to bv rather than watching sky in the pub, never mind actually getting a nose bleed with a 4 mile journey.
as for the doogooders, please continue to do good and i respect that and you as loyaler fans than me, but to be honest, 10 yearsa go i would have been there, but, and i hate this quote, it feels ike rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic.'"
I might even learn to play the violin
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| Quote ="mwildcats"What a crock of poop...
Been stringed along again.
We haven't got the money
We haven't got the space
We don't even own the bloody ground.
Pay extortionate rent.
What has become evident is that the mere basics of a structurally sound development are floored.
Gonna be another bodge job.
Planning permission for years..
Refused.. appeal.. then where relegated dont need a new stadium.
Nothing
What about this 108 agreement? Or whatever.. aren't the buildings selling quickly enough.
Realistically with P&R there is no quick need to move into the stadium.
This new stadium was going to make us a viable club for the next 100 years..
with all sorts of facilities and income streams.. this means where going to be a penniless club going from one struggle/crisis to another.
Absolute garbage..
Had enough of these ground shambles with Wakefield I'm only 25.. and in my time supporting the club we must have been going to about 7 locations.
NOT HAPPY!
BV is a sentimental home where memories have been shared but in order to move forward as a big club we all believe it can be.. we cannot be at BV. Just cannot be.'"
Well said young man!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The stadium cost was stated as £19 million and that would have included the laying of a pitch which will not now be needed.
So when YCP announce their plans for Belle Vue I expect it to be amazing for £19 million'"
We won't need that for a dozen sheets of corrugated iron, 4 dozen tins of paint and a year's supply of weedol
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| All I am going to say for now is that I am as proud today of what we have tried to do as I ever have. BV or NM will all be as a result of the efforts the fans have put in. I have nothing to hide - no conspiracies, no backhanders, nothing, just a lot of time, effort, heartache, worry... oh and the slagging's off from some I know and some I don't know.
You can't please all the people all the time and if you try you end up like me!
We keep going!
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| Quote ="snowie"I might even learn to play the violin
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| No disrespect to TRB, IA and all others involved in the Newmarket fiasco, and certainly none intended toward Snowie and his band of volunteers, but this appears to the rest of the RL world as yet another Wakey smoke and mirror job.
90% of the RL world doesn't believe a word that comes out of Belle Vue thanks to previous owners, this just gives them further ammo to attack us with. We will be a laughing stock (again) and I feel so sorry for Michael Carter and Chris Brereton who have worked wonders this year to keep us afloat.
Redeveloping Belle Vue will be subject to planning permission, no doubt local residents will object, plans will be called in again and it will be years before or if it ever happens.
I bet the Nutjob Forum has gone into meltdown and extra boxes of tissues have been ordered in by Aldi and Lidll.
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