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| Quote ="St pete" Until we know the above it's a non issue.'"
It's obviously not a non issue as it doesn't happen on a regular basis infact I think it's unheard of happening at Belle Vue so there was a reason. The question is what was the reason for entering the dressing room, is it appropriate or within his role and what was the result or non result of his intervention.
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| I am disappointed with the result, Roby did not help in the second half but at 16-4 up after scoring a try at the end of the first half and at the start of the second half.
We should have had enough about us to beat a Saints side that lacked any real halfbacks and a depleted pack.
I feel that with home advantage, we should have beaten an under strength Saints side today.
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| Quote ="St pete"I'm not that childish tbh.
I'd rather wait to the "real facts" came out.'"
Look Steve, you know you were in the wrong. Just admit it and stop messing about on here.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"It's obviously not a non issue as it doesn't happen on a regular basis infact I think it's unheard of happening at Belle Vue so there was a reason. The question is what was the reason for entering the dressing room, is it appropriate or within his role and what was the result or non result of his intervention.'"
As you say "I think it's never happened".
All hearsay at moment.
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| Quote ="St pete"Does this happen regular? Has it ever happened before? What did he go in for? Did Roby as to see Ganson?
Until we know the above it's a non issue.'"
You asked if Agar could back up his comments well one of them was backed up by the match commissioner stating that Ganson did go into the referees dressing room.Then he wouldn't comment on what was said. So to me there is some substance behind Agars comments.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Look Steve, you know you were in the wrong. Just admit it and stop messing about on here.
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| Quote ="St pete"As you say "I think it's never happened".
All hearsay at moment.'"
@Chrisirvine: Fan remonstrating on pitch with James Child, Roby being given a dressing down by Ganson at halftime at Wakey. Hard day for #rugbyleague refs
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"@Chrisirvine: Fan remonstrating on pitch with James Child, Roby being given a dressing down by Ganson at halftime at Wakey. Hard day for #rugbyleague refs'"
Must be true then if fans remonstrating
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| Still don't know how Lomax wasn't sent to the bin (at the least) for taking Godinet out off the ball and that was in the first half! Had it been in the second Godinet would probably have been sin binned for having the audacity to break through against St Helens!
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| Quote ="Disney cat"You asked if Agar could back up his comments well one of them was backed up by the match commissioner stating that Ganson did go into the referees dressing room.Then he wouldn't comment on what was said. So to me there is some substance behind Agars comments.'"
Might have needed a pee and knows what your fans are like so used the refs
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| Was listening to the commentary of two very bias Saints guys on the radio... First they said that ... If one were a neutral... One might question the string of penalties... But they also said that after the first try in the second half Trinity seemed to drop intensity.
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| Quote ="St pete"I hope Agar can back his comments up or he might find himself in deep water.'"
All he would have to do was forward a tape of the game - it was a horror show by Roby. Just can not believe some of the calls today - my fav out of dozens of possibles was the clear and blatent knock on by Manu at the play of the ball that was given as interference - it was outrageous Kirmond was stood 4ft away from him when poor Willie just plain dropped the ball. - Roby was so bad it does make you question his integrity.
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| Quote ="St pete"Must be true then if fans remonstrating
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I can't decide whether you are being ironic, trolling or just plain stupid? It was simply that the Ganson incident was being reported as fact by a well respected RL journo... nothing more.
The Cas incident did happen as well of course... quite a few witnesses to that one I understand.
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| Quote ="Old Blighty"Was listening to the commentary of two very bias Saints guys on the radio... First they said that ... If one were a neutral... One might question the string of penalties... But they also said that after the first try in the second half Trinity seemed to drop intensity.'"
Anybody's intensity would drop after facing about six consecutive sets!
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| These things seem clear:
1. Ganson did go into Roby's dressing room.
2. This is not a usual thing, as Agar commented on it and questioned it.
3. Roby caned Wakey in the second half.
It just isn't appropriate. Roby is a human being and is bound to want to please the guy who is his boss. So he refs the second half to please his boss. It is human nature, plain and simple. Ganson being from St Helens just heightens the stink, but regardless, you end up with a skewed refereeing performance.
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| Quote ="Inflatable_Armadillo"I can't decide whether you are being ironic, trolling or just plain stupid? It was simply that the Ganson incident was being reported as fact by a well respected RL journo... nothing more.
The Cas incident did happen as well of course... quite a few witnesses to that one I understand.'"
Was you in the refs changing room?
We don't know why he went in there of what was said.
If you lot want to come up with conspiracy theories then ok but I find it laughable tbh as it's all hearsay.
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| "Having said that, there was a lot of penalties against us in the second half and I thought the game was refereed differently to the first half.
"Apparently Steve Ganson has entered the referee's dressing room at half-time and has given him a good old-fashioned dressing down.
"I'm not sure that is in his remit. I'd have liked to have been a fly on the wall."
Match commissioner David Asquith confirmed that Ganson went into the referee's changing room at the interval but declined to elaborate."
From the Sky website. Please can someone explain why this could be acceptable.
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| Quote ="St pete" We don't know why he went in there
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I'm confused Pete are you now saying Ganson went into the changing room? I thought it was all hearsay?
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| Quote ="4foxsake"Still don't know how Lomax wasn't sent to the bin (at the least) for taking Godinet out off the ball and that was in the first half! Had it been in the second Godinet would probably have been sin binned for having the audacity to break through against St Helens!'"
Are you being serious? It shouldn't have even been a penalty. Lomax didn't move, Godinet ran straight into him. Lomax isn't obliged to get out of his way.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"Are you being serious? It shouldn't have even been a penalty. Lomax didn't move, Godinet ran straight into him. Lomax isn't obliged to get out of his way.'"
I did think this was a very soft penalty but we were unable to profit from it.
Did this penalty lead to the disallowed try?
Lots of soft penalties and lots of missed penalties.
All people want is consistency, not, one team is bigger than another.
For what it's worth I thought we showed Saints too much respect for the team they put out, which indirectly could have lead to our downfall.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"I'm confused Pete are you now saying Ganson went into the changing room? I thought it was all hearsay?'"
I've been told by you lot that the match commissioner has confirmed he did enter the refs changing room.
Unless you was in there, we don't know why or what was said.
Bored now. Saints won the game. Wakefield lost. The has to be a loser fortunately for us we got the win with a injury ravaged team.
I wish all all the best for rest of the season.
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| Quote ="St pete"I've been told by you lot that the match commissioner has confirmed he did enter the refs changing room.
Unless you was in there, we don't know why or what was said.
Bored now. Saints won the game. Wakefield lost. The has to be a loser fortunately for us we got the win with a injury ravaged team.
I wish all all the best for rest of the season.'"
But do you think it is appropriate for a St Helens-based ref to go into a ref's dressing room at half-time to give him a dressing down?
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| Quote ="St pete"I've been told by you lot that the match commissioner has confirmed he did enter the refs changing room.
Unless you was in there, we don't know why or what was said.
Bored now. Saints won the game. Wakefield lost. The has to be a loser fortunately for us we got the win with a injury ravaged team.
I wish all all the best for rest of the season.'"
See you later! Hopefully we'll see you at BV next year!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"But do you think it is appropriate for a St Helens-based ref to go into a ref's dressing room at half-time to give him a dressing down?'"
If he's professional and I beeline he is, then no I don't think it's a issue.
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| Quote ="Trinity Till Death"See you later! Hopefully we'll see you at BV next year!'"
Based on your 2nd half performance it will be touch and go.
Anyway, all the best with the relegation battle.
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