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| Quote ="The Dreadnought"I haven't seen the incident but the referee has to get out of the way I think?'"
That may be the case, but you still can't push him out of the way.
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| Quote ="pocket 4's"This may be more like getting caught doing 38 so you get points but the second time you get caught doing 32 and are let off with a telling off because it is marginal and within a certain tolerance. Seems a perfectly reasonable thing to me.
I think the RL judiciary system is quite difficult to follow and this why fans are often left scratching their heads or crying foul of favouritism in certain cases.'"
But then the authorities are ignoring the underlying issue - that you're speeding again after recently been caught and punished.
And Jinjer you're quite right, most ref's do have an underlying neck/back problem - they're spineless
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| Quote ="JINJER"That may be the case, but you still can't push him out of the way.'"
so what happens if the team score in the gap you've been forced to leave?
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| IMO the referee should have enough positional sense not to obstruct ANY player. Maybe if TR wasn't too busy blowing his whistle at every opportunity he woulden't of got pushed.
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"so what happens if the team score in the gap you've been forced to leave?'"
Unlucky, it does happen.
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| but in that split second what would you do? You'd give the ref a nudge!
.....note the terminology. "shove in the back" sounds less subtle
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| Absolutely not and I'd be disgusted if any of my team did such a cowardly thing.
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| As the great Steve Ganson said at Hull game televised a couple of years ago , after a try had been scored direct from a scrum when he happened to be in the way ,"I have to stand somewhere"
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| I remember that actually.
I aren't gonna say it's disgusting, at the time you don't have a chance to think and just scramble accross the best you can, I'm sure after he thought "ahh. " knowing that he'd get cited.
It wasn't an attack on an official as such
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| Quote ="El Rey"If you push a ref in a amateur game you'd get more than a couple of games.
Its a no no.'"
True, a player in my eldest sons team 2 seasons ago (Thornhill U18's) was banned for 5 years just for putting his hand on the refs chest, didn't push or strike him but at the same point questioned a decision the ref made so it was seen as an act of aggression, it was appealed and was reduced to 8 matches
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| I just think Tansey is unlucky in this really. Roby did back into him, and he's just tried his best to do his job and defend. No player has it wired into their circuits to just let the opposition in. He'd have done the same if granny Tansey was the ref, as would most players in that split second
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I just think Tansey is unlucky in this really. Roby did back into him, and he's just tried his best to do his job and defend. No player has it wired into their circuits to just let the opposition in. He'd have done the same if granny Tansey was the ref, as would most players in that split second'"
Leave it Dave…leave it
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| I've seen the incident and there was no need to shove the ref like he did,he could easily have moved him by putting his hand on his right shoulder a bit of frustration crept in I'm afraid.Hope learns from it.
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| Powell said he didnt appeal because he'll be dropped anyway
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| Whether fans like it or not. JT knows not to push the ref, particularly in the manner he did. It was petulant and unnecessary. Whilst it's tough for fans to swallow, he deserves the ban.
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| Agree
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| Quote ="DAVE@CAS1990"I just think Tansey is unlucky in this really. Roby did back into him, and he's just tried his best to do his job and defend. No player has it wired into their circuits to just let the opposition in. He'd have done the same if granny Tansey was the ref, as would most players in that split second'"
And yet when he wants to he can run at top speed and sidestep on a six pence.
He could have got out of the way.
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| Quote ="steadygetyerboots-on"Whether fans like it or not. JT knows not to push the ref, particularly in the manner he did. It was petulant and unnecessary. Whilst it's tough for fans to swallow, he deserves the ban.'"
He's done you again here Dave - done you right up like a kipper.
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| with all this technology of ref cam surely he should of had some reversing monitors that would of picked up tansey in the first place
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| I remember when Dave Watson from Bradford was brought in front of the disciplinary board and was appealing against a late tackle.
He has the Bradford legal eagles there and they showed the move in slow motion from lots of different angles to show he could not have possibly pulled out of the tackle in time.
One of our ex players (the greatest in fact)was there as they used to invite them along as an "informed" judge for these decisions then.
He asked the video techi to run the tape back to the try the Watson had scored previously. Of course running at full speed he did his trademark last second body swerve and side step. He got past the guy un touched and scored.
The point well made was that when you want to, you can move quickly to avoid someone, why not when it is a tackle, or more so when it is a far less speedy referee.
Appeal failed. He was banned.
I have no sympathy for the defence of "he backed in to me". He could have moved, he chose not to and tried to "move" the ref.
Take your ban and move on.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I have no sympathy for the defence of "he backed in to me". He could have moved, he chose not to and tried to "move" the ref.
Take your ban and move on.'"
Couldn't agree more - I've just watched the footage and it was far from a simple 'coming together' due to Roby backing in to Tansey; Roby was back-pedalling and Tansey put two hands into his back and pushed with sufficient force to snap Roby's head back and forward, whiplash style; wouldn't surprise me if he hasn't been in touch with a no-win no-fee compensation vulture already.
Defending this one is as ridiculous and desperate as say, defending Rangi Chase for his act of outright thuggery against Tangi Ropati.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Defending this one is as ridiculous and desperate as say, defending Rangi Chase for his act of outright thuggery against Tangi Ropati.'"
comparing those two incidents is outrageous to say the least.
I'm not defending Tansey, I still think he was unlucky to be in that position, yet agree the force he used was unneccesary.
I'm discussing what the cncensus is on whether the ramifications are in line with the offence, and indeed other Grade C charges
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| There are certain elements of Rugby League which should forever remain sacrosanct and making contact with an official is one of them. I think Tansey deserved his ban and I don't beleive it's harsh, however even if it was harsh I'd be happy to live with it because it sends out a strong message.
Questioning officials should also be overtly reinforced in order to send a strong message to players and coaches.
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| Just trying to imajine this thread on a football forum "good god a player pushed a ref"
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| Having seen this incident I can't believe people are defending Jordan Tansey. Ffirst of all, he shoves the ref with sufficient force to, like somebody has already said, force his neck back whiplash style. Secondly, the referee is travelling at such a pace that Tansey could easily have avoided him. Thirdly, Tansey was stood in a position where he was aware before the incident that the referee was travelling towards him. He made a conscious decision to shove him with force, rather than step aside or simply grab a hold of the referee to move him cautiously to the side.
In short, the shove seemed a lot more aggressive than it had to be and could have hurt the ref. I think the ban was the correct length and severity of punishment for the incident. You cannot do what Tansey did in the nature that he did it.
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