Don't know what the penalty count was (for both sides) on Saturday, but it was very low

4-4

I know players who played with each other have a bit of fun in the tackle when playing against eachother I hope we don't give any stupid penalties away in doing so. I remember Raleigh tackling Eorl a few times and giving away penalties.

Luke Walsh out for 4-6 weeks..

That's a blow for them, whether they beat us or not.

With Walsh and others out, like Wigan there may be never a better time to get a win.

LMS banned for 2 games. soliola and walmsley are doubtful

Providing everyone is fit who played in last weeks game and Molloy makes a return my 17:

Mathers
Fox
Collis
Lyne
Riley
Sammut
Godinet
Anderson
McShane
Scruton
Ali
Kirmond
Tautai

Molloy
Sykes (However if Raleigh is fit to take his place)
Ryan
Smith

Even with Walmsley out they still have a big pack, Masoe is still unfit but will scatter out defence so 3 props to start. Molloy to LF when Tautai has a break.

Think Raleigh could be back this week. He'd be in straight away

there for the taking

Turner and Percival as well. Great opportunity for a big scalp.

Lets not count the chickens yet even if its good chance we can do it.

I hope not. Wouldn't be fair on the other forwards.

He could replace Sykes as we don't really need to have a bench spot taken up by a utility back.

I expect Sjeka will take Wildie place on the bench for no other reason than the club have gone to great lengths to get him here so will want to get him in the team as soon as possible.

Leave things as they are its coming along well so far why upset the balance and Seijka will have to wait his turn for me.

I agree.
Harry has to wait.
Tautai at prop for me.

Extra forward on the bench instead of Sykes but other than that as you were for me.

Harry to wait for me also but it sounds like he could make his debut in the YEP. Same set up as last week just another front-rower instead of Sykes for me...

I don't think that we can afford Harry and Wilde on the bench against teams like Saints.
We need as much umph in the pack as we can muster and keeping our acting half fresh, is equally as important.

Although it has taken ages to get our new "Polish" player over here, it seems crazy to disturb our 6 & 7 for the sake of it.

To mess with Godinet and dammit would be nothing sort of daft the way they have started playing together lately.

Would thing Harry will play 9 but Wildie has done nothing to lose his place I don't think.

Harry should be kept out until he knows our plays, unless we have injuries. Wildie is a must on the bench McShane can't play 80 minutes and we get more out of him when he has energy. Our 2 Props and another at LF should keep St Helens huge pack busy, hopefully a few penalties going our way will get us on the front foot. Walsh will be missed for Saints as he is a phenomenal player but they still have threats in their inside and outside backs -even with a couple of injuries.

I'd leave it as is with Tautai at 13 and Anderson and Scruton starting at prop for umph in the pack. Raleigh, Smith, Ryan and Wildie on bench.

i agree with everything you say. I know walsh and LMS are deffo out and if they are telling the truth about the other absentee's you've got a real chance. Apart from the penalties a lot will depend on which pack gets on the front foot. Close game.

Turner definitely is out, soliola is 50/50 as is walmsley, and Percival. A few of our fringe guys should be looking to use this game to claim a stake to keep their place (I expect Flanaghan won't be too happy he's yet to be named in the 19 this year!)

Walsh is a loss, but imo we've made a very conscious effort to make sure not everything goes through him, and Wilkin should step back into the role he had last year. His kicking game is strong enough to fill the gap. It may make our kicking game a little 1 dimensional though, and as I said on another thread to beat saints you need to beat us at the kicking game - goal kicking will be a big miss as well.

Flanagan has been named in the 19, just not 17



No Wheeler, Percival, Walmsley, LMS, Walsh or Turner on Sunday. Soliola is 50/50.