I guess it all depends on how long it takes to get started. It would be nice for some clarification on the matter, just for piece of mind sake.

Nah! speculation, conjecture and rumour are a far better way to go

Not that I'm aware of.

So why does the developer need council agreement?

Who is underwriting the cost of the build?

Ditto the cost of running it?

It'll be right cos some people on here say it will.

Or maybe it won't cos some others say so.

Theres your evidence. Good on here ain't it.

As far as I'm aware

Council agreement as part of the planning agreement
The developer and grants it's part of a massive development and other projects maybe incorporated into the stadium.
The Wakefield Community Trust is running it headed by Sir Rodney Walker

When somebody wants to build something they need permission from the local authority.

The developer, grants from various bodies and if it's still on the table a contribution from the council.

The Wakefield Community Trust.

At the recent meeting with Mr Carter it was asked (by Mr Carter) who was for a move to Newmarket or who was for staying at Belle Vue, i would estimate approximately half in favour of staying at Belle Vue. The people attending these meetings are our hard core supporters if they are not convinced then what chance have we of getting new fans to the ground.

Is it too late for a plan B or C we have waited this long would it harm to wait longer and get it right. I have reservations over the location it is a Leeds post code. I would like to see Wakefield keep its identity and not become another superb of Leeds.

I am not sure it would attract the away fans who would maybe attend the first time out of curiosity. The best away days for me are where we park up in town have a few drinks, some thing to eat and then have a walk to the ground this wouldn't be possible on an industrial estate a couple of miles out of Wakefield

Or is it too late

I'm not asking who is supplying the money to build it, or who is running it

Underwriting is, who is guaranteeing it

The LSV was totally grant funded, but the council had to agree to underwrite it before it could start

A community trust runs the LSV, but that trust is underwritten by the council

So this is essentially the same?

To get something like this built requires ' somebody ' to guarantee it will be finished and the bills will be paid, I doubt the developer will do that ,or the Trust which has no substantial funds

I'm not Agent XIII biggest fan but I can't see anything wrong with the question.

This is exactly my point, what is being suggested is a massive change of your very culture ,yes the ' Prawn Sandwich ' brigade will be happy ( although maybe not the cost ) to have a nice shiney new box or corporate suite away from the riff raff , but unless massive marketing is done to attract new fans it could be a disaster for the club

Everybody quotes Warrington as the success story , but their move was still very much within the town centre, so as you suggest the meet up, call for a beer, walk home match day didnt change much

You will only ever hear the best case scenario from those involved, maybe the worst case scenario should be the starting point, then a more realistic idea of where you will be starting from will focus all involved to how much work will be involved after it is built to be a success

I'll leave you alone, I dont want rebel rebel getting upset again

The best location by far would've been Thornes Park. It was an opportunity missed, although I conceded the costs ballooned so much to make it unviable.

Trinity don't have much option here. They are renting BV and responsible for its maintenance. It's land locked so development would prove difficult and costly, ands that's assuming they could afford the 1m or so to buy it back. No one else has stepped forward to provide new facilities for the club within the city limits so there isn't an alternative closer to town.

Whilst I agree that the transition will not be easy, and retaining the initially curious fans will probably depend on some on-field success, the vote of the diehards was probably down to generations of emotional ties rather than the cold light of economic reality.
It's about a mile from all the pubs in Stanley, so still do-able?
Stanley is definitely commuter belt to Leeds, but the M62 is a fairly clear boundary.
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I dunno if I miss how it works, but I basically see the new stadium being like, sheltered housing build by WDH...

I wouldn't have thought it mattered what league Wakefield played in, they are still eligible to become tenants so long as they pay the rent, right? Its not technically "a stadium being build for WTW"...

Dunno if that's right?

We had a walk over the old pit stacks last week and there is still no sign of work starting. The gas burning engine is still running, they have moved all the rubbish from the gate and they have laid a brick rubble road to the top of the first pit stacks but no sign of life at all.

Thornes Park would have been perfect near City centre nice park location and all the pubs on westgate but sadly that wasn't to be. The old dairy site would have been a good location as would the old empire stores on horbury road or the new development from the old planning offices to snow hill, but we have no other option than Newmarket just wish they'd get on with it. One good thing about out of town developments is it's cheaper and you can build whatever you want around the stadium + it's a good drink around Stanley and easier for the north Wakefield Trin fans.

I know the stadium is part of the approved planning for the whole Newmarket development but is there anything stopping the community trust saying to York court for example giving them funds to buy back belle Vue and built new west stand like warringtons standing terrace and a new all seater east stand & maybe extend corporate boxes. It would cost a fraction of the price and give a up to date community facility for the City. It would cost York court less to do this and they could then do something else with the land. We keep hearing things are going well behind the scenes and better deals are being done to build us a better stadium at Newmarket but nothing gets announced, we can't wait forever.

I would suggest the biggest problem for that would be getting planning permission, not to mention the fact the WTW are on a 2 year rolling lease so it hardly makes sense spending money on such a short term lease. WTW don't own BV it is currently owned/administrated by the Bank of Ireland, at some point they will want to cash it in and the best option for them will to be to a property developer interested in housing as there will be no issue for planning permission for new housing on the BV site.

For the record I thought Thornes park was a terrible option, Parking/access and proximity to local housing all wrong, better options would be Durkar or Silkwood park, however Newmarket seems a fitting place seeing as an awful lot of RL teams came from the pits, so being on the site of an old colliery is apt

Yes, there are rules preventing the use of money generated from PP in one area being used in another area. One area can't have the pain and another one the pleasure!

It has always been said that Wakey would be anchor tenants but is this guaranteed. If and as I see it now we drop out of SL in 2014 could our friends from over the common apply to be the anchor tenants.

We will be anchor tenants at Newmarket, Newmarket is a big part in our future plans and if the plans go to plan Wakefield Trinity RLFC will have a good future.

If Newmarket ever happens I will eat all 2 dozen Wakefield shirts I've bought in the last few years. How many delays, planning permissions, meetings, enquiries, discussions, referrals...blah blah blah have we heard. Rumours, those in the know saying don't worry guys...then another year or 2 is added to the glorious moment when we park our botties in our lovely new ground and we will metamorphisize into a successful, well run club instead a bunch of idiots playing at it. If the club actually communiacted exactly where we were on this, and every other issue, on a regular basis and was open and honest, I might actually have some faith. It is hard to see a positive future for this great and mismanaged club of ours.

The council pulling out of the Thornes Park plan and Newmarket being seny to PI and then Secretary of State were not the fault of people running the club.
They may be culpable for many things ,but a lot of time ,effort and money have gone into the above.
And do not forget the people such as IA and TRB.
They say things are on track.
I have no reason to disbelieve them.

Things aren't on track, if they were we would be alot further down the line re Newmarket. It is sustaining regular hold ups and delays. Hope it comes off and is worth the wait.

I don't necessarily blame people at WT for Newmarket's none progress. I think there is no political will for this to happen. I think we are being fobbed off; this project has been hit into the long grass more than my Golf Drives. I just feel the club say little about it. It moves so slowly that, to maintain morale, we need reminders and updates.

I have to say I feel the vaguest wave of optimism reading Michael Carter's comments on the club website today. I want to be optimistic but my synicism regarding Trinity now is well entrenched after 40 years of the kind of situation we find ourselves in now. I just hope Mr Carter, if you read the kind of thing that I write and feel, that you realise you have a massive job to do to get chronically disappointed and failed fans back on side. Today was the kind of thing I like to read but we need to see actions that look right as well as words that sound right. We just had 3 years of good words and dismal actions. For what it's worth, I hope you mean it and good luck.