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| Quote ="PopTart"Amazing as this may sound, we have lost games with him playing as well.
I still felt he went missing in the "big 7 "games at times.
He stikes me as being like the "big lad" in the school team.
He runs through gaps when they are there and looks (and is) great doing it, but when you step up a level you need someone with all round sklills. He has holes in his all round skills he needs to fix.'"
If you run the right lines you can create you're own gap, if you get it wrong you get flattened
Agar spoke very highly of Franks end of season form, maybe Agars wrong
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| Quote ="El Rey"If you run the right lines you can create you're own gap, if you get it wrong you get flattened
Agar spoke very highly of Franks end of season form, maybe Agars wrong'"
I don't disagree with what you say about his skills and particularly his running lines. He is probably the best we have at that. It's just that he needs to do the other things to at least average level to make it still valuable to us.
I would love him to be back in the team and performing well, I just don't agree he is being treated as unfairly as you and NGB4C seem to do as I think there are many reasons to not put him in too.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I don't disagree with what you say about his skills and particularly his running lines. He is probably the best we have at that. It's just that he needs to do the other things to at least average level to make it still valuable to us.
I would love him to be back in the team and performing well, I just don't agree he is being treated as unfairly as you and NGB4C seem to do as I think there are many reasons to not put him in too.'"
The only reason he's not in just at the moment is because Fev are in control of the player.
Who's fault this is isn't too clear but, both the player and Wakefield would like him turning out in red, white and blue.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The only reason he's not in just at the moment is because Fev are in control of the player.
Who's fault this is isn't too clear but, both the player and Wakefield would like him turning out in red, white and blue.'"
How do you know he does want to turn out the in RW&B?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"The only reason he's not in just at the moment is because Fev are in control of the player.
Who's fault this is isn't too clear but, both the player and Wakefield would like him turning out in red, white and blue.'"
Correct and while I don't think he's perfect, I have seen less effort from other players.
players that are first choice it would seem.
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| Mariano better than trout, Mellars and molly end of. Agar wasted the clubs money getting Molly we have tons of second rowers Agar in wrong lets send him to BATLEY on loan. my point we all make mistakes. Mariano quality.
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| What a waste of debate over at best an average player.
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| Quote ="jacques"What a waste of debate over at best an average player.'"
Agree, he is at best average. Yes he can run good lines but he also has faults to his game. If he was any good another SL club would have offered him a contract - as far as I know they haven't. Molloy is still young but is still getting used to playing, he hasn't let us down - not given away any penalties or knocked on that has cost us games.
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| Quote ="PopTart"No matter what you think of Mariano, Molloy's skills are becoming clear.
He has missed no tackles and made no errors and given away no penalties.
If he keeps that up he will start to be a favourite.'"
He can make as many tackles as he wants but if that's all he offers, then no thanks. Good super league players are required to do simply more than tackle. Molloy looks like he was the ability of a wet fish when attacking. However, I'm willing to see how he does after more game time.
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| That's all that Danny Washbrook is offering this year. Tackles, but with ball in hand he might as well just fall to the floor the moment the ball hits his hands. Looks utterly disinterested.
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| His stats mean little considering he's given a token 5-10 minutes at the end of the game. If he was played in spells in both halfs it'd have more substance.
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| The guy can't win. We have poor defence. He comes on when told and tackles everything thrown at him.
I'm not saying he's anything special yet but he's giving it a go and low error rate is just what we need.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The guy can't win. We have poor defence. He comes on when told and tackles everything thrown at him.
I'm not saying he's anything special yet but he's giving it a go and low error rate is just what we need.'"
Its fair to say he'll miss less tackles if he's not tired but you are right he can do no more than is coach gives him.
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| Quote ="gowerthegroap"That's all that Danny Washbrook is offering this year. Tackles, but with ball in hand he might as well just fall to the floor the moment the ball hits his hands. Looks utterly disinterested.'"
Think at the start of the season Agar was talking about playing 'moneyball' with the finances he had. Molloy not set the world alight, but has come from a good environment at Wigan. Washbrook hasn't looked the player of last season, so in comparison to what each one is getting paid, would say Molloy wins. Monday night is a perfect opportunity for the real Jon Molloy to put his hand up and have a big game against his former employers.
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| poptart never fails to amaze me, as a big critic of molloy i too took particular notice of his performance none of his supposed tackles were man to man they were either second or third man in or he joined in a gang tackle several times he ran alongside unsure wether to attempt a tackle or not,it might seem im giving the kid a bad time but godyour trying tomake a fans favorite out of a very ordinary player ,and for those who say he hasnt made any mistakes or given penalties away the man dosent get involved enough to do any of these
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| Quote ="try scorer"poptart never fails to amaze me, as a big critic of molloy i too took particular notice of his performance none of his supposed tackles were man to man they were either second or third man in or he joined in a gang tackle several times he ran alongside unsure wether to attempt a tackle or not,it might seem im giving the kid a bad time but godyour trying tomake a fans favorite out of a very ordinary player ,and for those who say he hasnt made any mistakes or given penalties away the man dosent get involved enough to do any of these'"
Well it's good to know I'm amazing tryscorer.
I'm not trying to make him a fans favourite, I just want to slow down making him the scapegoat until he's had chance to prove one way or the other.
If I picked my best 17 he wouldn't be in it.....but I think he gets more criticism than he deserves.
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| Tweets from the Wakey express suggest we have Mariano back and Mellars has gone to fev in his place??
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Tweets from the Wakey express suggest we have Mariano back and Mellars has gone to fev in his place??'"
The official site posted it the other day in the Team news post on the club website.
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| So what is "the truth" with Mariano then?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"So what is "the truth" with Mariano then?'"
He has a Italian name
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Lets keep it fluffy ladies, discuss the topic and leave the handbags out!!!
Any more and a decent thread goes!!
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| Quote ="try scorer"by my reckoning ive been negative about three players on here,one mathers who is loved by some on here despite when he is tested by good teams and players is sadly lacking ,mellars who ithink my criticisum as been justified by his departure on loan whoed want to pay a transfer fee for him, and im awaiting glen morrisons verdict on molloy il be suprised if he keeps him'"
and you werent the only one negative about molloy mellars and i think that agars decision to get shut of the pair of them will be vindicated as frankly they are very ordinary at best
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