Many players have been to grounds and copped it from the crowd. If its racist or personal then of order anything else is part and parcel of game in my opinion. The fact that he reacted and threw something into the crowd isn't and he should be done for this.

Spare a thought for refs and TJ's what Griff may have got for a few seconds yesterday they get for a full 80 minutes everyweek.

Also just to spice things up a bit ,I heard we have been in talks recently with a view to a return to us.

I sure whoever it was is proud. But I go to watch my team play rugby not shout abuse at someone who I know I am protected from because he should have more about him than I should.

I don't care what happens to him though, I care what happens to us. It will still go down as a crowd incident.
A plastic bottle is hardly going to hurt anyone though lets not get all drama queen about it.

I'll qualify the comment, i don't condone any such acts perpitrated by any pro sportsmen (or amature for that matter), however you cannot say what you want to people and not expect a "negative" response - and then berate them. That is lunacy.
I have two analogies 1) i work in a school wher children constantly push the boundaries/are provocative and are not conserned with the consequences until they either smack them in the mouth or are dealt with via the school behavioural systems and then cry foul and try to abuse the system or use the system they have abused on someone else. 2) would the individual conserned have gone up to said player in the pub and said "excuse me Mr T. Pot would you mind stepping outside i would like to say something to you? the answer to that is in most cases is - i think not!!
All im suggesting is people apply common sense, weve all shouted at players and refs and water carriers etc - just dont be surprised if they answer back (or chuck water bottles.)
That said if a spectator throws an object they are dealt with by the club (banned etc) or the police, it will be interesting to see if any action is taken by either the RFL or Salford against a player in this instance.

I think you lack the necessary levels of inteligence or the descriptive powers to enter into such a conversation.
Stick to using the pictures, SHOUTING, and making yourself look stoooopid!!

Isn't baiting the opposition players all part of the spectacle? Let's not get holier than thou. I don't have a problem with people abusing players provided that it doesn't overstep the mark in terms of human decency (racial, homophobic, a bit too personal). Players expect it, and I expect a lot enjoy it. Can there be a better thing to score against a crowd that has been on your back for 80 minutes?

When I have seen players respond in jest, it has always gone down well. Solomona making "singalong" gestures when people were chanting suggestions that he may be overweight, or Greg Bird in his first game when he made a drinking gesture. The fans know it is pantomime, and so do the players. The fact that Griffin bit just shows that he lost the plot and the abuse had the desired effect. It put him off.

If a fan threw a bottle at a player, he would expect a ban. Griffin might have to cop for the same.

My post about his shirt was really just to point out that he seems to view his time with Wakey with some pride. Maybe it was his debut shirt?

There is only one person who is looking stupid here my friend and thats you

. Whether he is a pro or not you say. So when Ashley cole goes to every football ground he is allowed to flip and throw water into the crowd. HE got called a bell end for god sake that is nothing. You are pure comedy add little to any debate and when you do same something its special

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=#FF0000Don't really understand what you mean.
I bet you only call people bell ends from the safety of your PC??
Simply (just for you) if you insult someone and don't consider that there might be negative consequences then you are simple (

) if you do and there are, then thats pretty much all you can expect.
The insult came before the re-action - therfore remove the former and the latter ceases to be.

I am not saying that baiting doesn't or should'nt happen - as i posted we've all done it.
My issue is that when someone (a player) reacts its all there fault and they should be punished.
As people prove endlessly on this forum its easy to be an anonymous warrior, how many would have gone up to Griffin and called him a bell end - not many, but its ok to do it from the crowd and then decry the player for reacting.

Im innocent... although Id like to buy whoever the fan was a pint !!

I don't see how anyone can make excuses for Griffin - if the incident played out as has been described here, he is entirely at fault; baiting and banter from the crowd is a part of sport and as Slugger says, many players enjoy it - I remember Big Ali sticking his tongue out at my son a couple of seasons ago after a bit of sledging from jr - it made his afternoon.

Griffin is no different to any other player - if he didn't like what he heard, he should have ignored it; chucking something at the shouter was irresponsible and daft - imagine the mess he'd be in if it had bounced off the head of the offspring of a particularly litigous parent.

I called him to his face, and he showed his the mardy sod, i have crapped scarier! If he were to come back here it would be the worse move ever for both parties, crowd against him from day 1, he has shown he doesn't have the mettle to deal with the grief.

In my view there is a difference between name calling and violence, both are wrong however in most cases violence is seen as more wrong. He is a professional player and should act as such

I don’t mind payers giving a bit back, I recall last year the FC fans giving Cockayne hell all throughout the match, particularly as he fumbled a kick early in the game, yet when he was giving it to them at the end after an unlikely Trinity victory they were most upset and claiming he was inciting them.

I’ve no issue with Griffin giving something back, but not by chucking a bottle into the crowd and you would expect he will be dealt with appropriately, but as kinley said, you can’t expect to call someone a bellend without expecting some sort of negative reaction from the target.

I agree with all the comments to say Griffin is wrong to throw something into the crowd. I'm quite sure he'll be dealt with for that.
The bit that gets me a bit is that some see it as ok to bait a player but then are all distraught when the player reacts. Isn't that what they were aiming for?
By all means call him and laugh when he gets a ban but there is no point going all "how dare he" when he reacts.
He gets more stick than most from Wakefield fans. I think he's got every right to react.....its just if he over reacts, there will be consequences.
In just the same way that if a crowd of lads start jeering another guy in the crowd and are abusive, it is wrong for the other guy to stick one on him, but you ought to expect it.

I fail to see how unless the referee/officials saw the event, or somebody complains through the official channels. Given our cosy relationship with the Hetheringtons I can't see it being us.

There is a danger though that if we don't say anything that, as it is in the public domain, the RFL will know anyway.

I take your point though, which in some ways makes it worse. If not reported it can just be seen as hear say crowd trouble......which reflects on us.

He should not have thrown the water bottle suppose it had hit a child what then, its ok saying its only plastic but the drinking end could cause damage to the eye.His reaction would have been better if he had shouted "but this bellend is winning hows it going with you".I dont agree with calling a player all the names under the sun a little light banter yes but getting personal no.

Hope not. Don't rate him at all.

Perhaps his reply was in the bottle.

When I was playin cricket one time, someone shouted at me and called me a bellend



my retort was "well you've been watching a team play with a bellend for 3 hours so what does that make you"

that being said, Griff will have heard many worse things as a player. I watch normanton and give opposition players lighthearted stick.

I don't think "oi you bellend" is abusive.

It must have touched a raw nerve with him.

They do say that truth hurts.

the thing griffin did wrong was to thrw the bottle ,those hardmen throwing out abuse at a player whos andrenelin would be running high are taking a big risk .Its alright saying their pros and should take the abuse players do laugh at barracking but i wish i could get a bet on that this was personal. some one mentioned about solomona laughing when they called him fat but i also saw him jump into the crowd near the tunnel when someone abused him after being sent off at bel vue.I see inside man says he called it to his face i bet he made sure daryl didnt see his face ,i know all the griffin boys well and their parents and they are decent people but like any decent prson they wont be abused by so called tough guys .The thread is about daryl griffin why if its not abuse call it teapot