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| Quote ="tamargrace"scanner? photocopy? just a thought
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| Kids move heaven and earth to get fake id to get in pubs, i'm sure they'll be able to get something legit to prove that they are really only kids if they have to.
Best not to get them mixed up though!!!!
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| Quote ="WestofWakey"In 1947 my mate manned one of the turnstiles and I would go down to Belle Vue early and he would let me crawl under the turnstiles'"
I read a story recently about a pensioner in the US who contacted a dept store to admit that when he worked there decades prior, he had nicked some money out of the till; he said it had preyed on his mind ever since, so he wrote to them and returned the money.
Perhaps you should do that, to ameliorate your guilty conscience?
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| Quote ="snowie"16 is the age and yes most young teens do'"
Yeah, my point being that if you don't look like you "fit" the concession (i.e. looking 18 when you are 15), be prepared to prove your eligibility.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It seems only fair - I've never seen hide nor hair of one of these legendary 'freebies' that change hands in smokey working mens clubs, but if there is a system that's being abused, the rules must be enforced more rigorously.'"
They are available, almost without exception, in the con club. A regular source of supply and a regular band of customers waiting for them (not to mention the shirts, if that "scam" is still going on).
Good move, more money in the coffers.
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| Quote ="bren2k"It seems only fair - I've never seen hide nor hair of one of these legendary 'freebies' that change hands in smokey working mens clubs, but if there is a system that's being abused, the rules must be enforced more rigorously.'"
Have seen complimentary tickets being sold before games. Should be clamped down on.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"They are available, almost without exception, in the con club. A regular source of supply and a regular band of customers waiting for them (not to mention the shirts, if that "scam" is still going on).
Good move, more money in the coffers.'"
I would assume that most "freebies" are issued by the club in the first instance, if the practice is to cease, the club only need to issue "less".
Never heard or seen the shirt one.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"I would assume that most "freebies" are issued by the club in the first instance, if the practice is to cease, the club only need to issue "less".
Never heard or seen the shirt one.'"
So thats where all the "mediums" went.
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| Quote ="the mogal"whats the unison thing iam a member'"
tickets are sold to unison members for their own use at a discounted rate as part of the unison sponsorship, are often passed on to the spouses/mates etc of unison members which is taking the pee.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"tickets are sold to unison members for their own use at a discounted rate as part of the unison sponsorship, are often passed on to the spouses/mates etc of unison members which is taking the pee.'"
The deal must be known about by the club because Unison offered 3 adult tickets per game at £9 each last season. They have to be paid for so why shouldnt they be allowed to be passed on ? What the point of selling a £9 ticket for a tiny profit, seems like a big waste of time to me.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"The deal must be known about by the club because Unison offered 3 adult tickets per game at £9 each last season. They have to be paid for so why shouldnt they be allowed to be passed on ? What the point of selling a £9 ticket for a tiny profit, seems like a big waste of time to me.'"
i don't suspect re-sale at all, as like you say it's not worth the bother.
didn't know about the 3 ticket offer, i only know of people who are not members attending without members in their party. some people are so low that they'd rob the club that they claim to support of a few bob.
there's a guy that stands by me that always has a unison ticket, his mrs is a member, but he isn't.
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| If she has paid for 3 tickets, she has to give the remaining 2 to someone or what's the point in selling one unison member 3 tickets per game ?
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"tickets are sold to unison members for their own use at a discounted rate as part of the unison sponsorship, are often passed on to the spouses/mates etc of unison members which is taking the pee.'"
Typical ill informed nonsense. There is no stipulation as to there use by Unison. They offer members up to 4 match tickets per game. Even to you it must be obvious that they don't expect the members family to all be Unison members
So let me explain how it works. Unison sponsor the club and as part of that deal get a number of tickets which as part of the deal they have paid for. They then pass them onto their members at a subsidised rate - following so far?
So Trinity have been paid up front, whatever happens to those tickets the club doesn't lose a penny. It doesn't matter how immoral you think it is (as do I) to re-sell the tickets at an inflated price - the club does not lose. Only if the ticket were sold for more than a full match day ticket could it be argued that the club has lost revenue.
Ditto Unison.
Passing them onto family or mates is totally fine so long as no profit is made. I get four and pay £40. Use one myself, give a ticket to the wife and sell two on at cost price. This is fine because the club still got the full £80. It ALWAYS gets it's money that the beauty of the scheme.
It may not fit in your paranoid world but it's fair enough to most reasonable folk. These tickets are NOT freebies so the club has no say what happens to them other than they can't be sold on Trinity property or a public road or above there face value which is touting.
I'm not in Unison and I don't have any family members in it either. I have been given Unison tickets a few times which I passed on for free - no use to a season ticket holder - but that was my choice.
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| Quote ="Trinitythefuture"If she has paid for 3 tickets, she has to give the remaining 2 to someone or what's the point in selling one unison member 3 tickets per game ?'"
I wouldn't bother, this bloke is simply agenda driven and a touch bitter. I have had a go at explaining it to him but it will come to nothing.
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| i have decided to kill myself in a bath of baked beans.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"i have decided to kill myself in a bath of baked beans.'"
Why waste the baked beans
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| Quote ="vastman"Only if the ticket were sold for more than a full match day ticket could it be argued that the club has lost revenue.'"
I can only think of 1 game in the last 40 years or so when you might... just [imight[/i have been able to sell a ticket for more than the match day price. Anyone who's managed to do this on a regular basis is a sales genius, or knows a lot of very thick people.
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I can only think of 1 game in the last 40 years or so when you might... just [imight[/i have been able to sell a ticket for more than the match day price. Anyone who's managed to do this on a regular basis is a sales genius, or knows a lot of very thick people.'"
When you next come over and are stood on the terraces, just have a good look round....
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| Quote ="Schunter"When you next come over and are stood on the terraces, just have a good look round....'"
OK, will do.
...anything in particular I should be looking for? Sales geniuses? Dumb people? Vastman's missus' Unison tickets?
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"I can only think of 1 game in the last 40 years or so when you might... just [imight[/i have been able to sell a ticket for more than the match day price. Anyone who's managed to do this on a regular basis is a sales genius, or knows a lot of very thick people.'"
Certainly the only game that I can recall that was a sell out. TBF the trick is to sell them for more than a tenner I suppose which means someone is getting a bargain of sorts if it's less than £20. However the club isn't losing anything no matter how morally bankrupt it is to make money off subsidised tickets.
However WTRLFC have been selling us crap RL for most of the last 30 years at full price so maybe we are all a bit thick
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| Quote ="RebelRebel"OK, will do.
...anything in particular I should be looking for? Sales geniuses? Dumb people? Vastman's missus' Unison tickets?'"
My missus isn't in Unison, if she were you'd see me on Donny road making my fortune every other week - think on young man.
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| Quote ="vastman"Certainly the only game that I can recall that was a sell out. TBF the trick is to sell them for more than a tenner I suppose which means someone is getting a bargain of sorts if it's less than £20. However the club isn't losing anything no matter how morally bankrupt it is to make money off subsidised tickets. quote
Your club will be losing money, If people weren't able to buy your tickets then they would have to pay the club to enter.
Even if Unison have already paid a fee for the tickets in their sponsorship deal, if you weren't selling the tickets on the club would get the money twice.
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| Your club will be losing money, If people weren't able to buy your tickets then they would have to pay the club to enter.
Even if Unison have already paid a fee for the tickets in their sponsorship deal, if you weren't selling the tickets on the club would get the money twice. Quote ="Bethman"
Here we go, why do people struggle so much with this. THE CLUB HAS ALREADY BEEN PAID
The ticket is paid for, whoever uses it in the end or how it got to them is not relevant in financial terms - the club has got it's £20 from Unison as part of the deal - there is no "even if' Unison have paid for them as part of the sponsorship package.
The holder has by default paid for entry because the ticket is valid. What your suggesting is the club effectively has the right to sell the ticket twice which is frankly absurd. If I buy a Ford Focus and then sell it on Ford don't get a second bite at the cherry do they - where are WTRLFC different. The moment they sell that ticket to Unison they have no call over it at all, the deal is done. Unison do not stipulate any rules as to how the tickets are distributed other than you have to be a member to buy them in the first place.
If some one sells a ticket on for a personal profit so what, the club has got it's purchase price - find me any legislation anywhere that says it is entitled to more. Only in the hugely unlikely event that the seller gets more than face value could the club actually lose money, but that as in the theatre or any form of live entertainment it's a risk you take selling tickets in advance. There may be issues involving VAT or touting involving the reseller I don't know but the club has got it's money - end of.
Only RL fans could be so small minded that they feel somehow that they are missing out on a deal specifically designed to get non fans - I repeat - non fans to sample RL. Probably the same fans who moan that the game does not promote itself.
I'm sure the club and Unison are aware that some of the tickets don't exactly end up where they should - but as in all things the positives outweigh the negatives.
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| Sponsors usually get an amount for free, i know JCT600 used to get 3500 free tickets for the Bulls per season, this may well be how the subsidy is arrived at if Unison have a similar deal and then they buy the same amount of tickets, hey presto half price to their members.
No story!!
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| basically vastman is saying he is doing the club a favour. there should be a star for him in the middle of town.
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