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| The Halifax chairman should take a chill pill and ease off Wakefield. Why does he think we were the weakest applicant of those who got in? Why does he think their application is better than ours?
We have long been touted for the drop due to stadia, yet the franchise application is over many criteria and not one or two. We are not the only club not to yet have a new ground but we are going to up grade before 2012. Further we've been trying for many years and politics has stopped us.
Why does he not have a go at Quins, Salford or Cas? Why does he think we are worse than his application. Spouting off impulse reactions will not help his case with the RFL.
I genuinely see a future for Halifax in Super League and hope they get there. However the Chairman should have facts and not believe everything he reads in the media.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Factually wrong on two points.
1. I'm almost certain that the community dept at WTW is cost neutral, as Davide Longo and his team have consistently generated a massive amount of grant income.'"
Yes, but you have the RFL/Sky money to spend to get it going in the first place, which then attracts grants. Do you honestly believe Halifax wouldnt be able to attract the same grants?
Quote 2. As for stadium - we'll be playing out of Newmarket in 18 months time.'"
From the RFL's own FAQ released a week ago:-
Quote New stadiums or redevelopments of existing stadiums have only been taken into account if the RFL Board was satisfied that the stadium will be open or the redevelopment finished by the start of the 2012 season.'"
Tell me, how many bricks have been laid at Newmarket or has your 'redevelopment' even started yet. You made the same promises last time and broke them.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"From the RFL's own FAQ released a week ago:-
[uTell me, how many bricks have been laid at Newmarket?'" [/u
BV is being upgraded in time for start of 2012 season
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"From the RFL's own FAQ released a week ago:-
Tell me, how many bricks have been laid at Newmarket?'"
None, because the SoS has called the application in for a PI; watch this space though.
I think your anger is pointed in the wrong direction to be honest - you were up against Widnes and you lost that fight months ago; you weren't really in contention against the existing SL clubs, you're light years behind in too many criteria.
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| Quote ="Tricky2309"[/u
BV is being upgraded in time for start of 2012 season'"
Believe it when I see it. You made the same promises last time and broke them. The Shay is ready now. If you redeveloped all four sides of BV it still wouldnt be half the ground that the Shay is. Perhaps if we want a license next time around we should demolish half of the shay and go bust the season before. Its worked for you!
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Believe it when I see it. You made the same promises last time and broke them. The Shay is ready now. If you redeveloped all four sides of BV it still wouldnt be half the ground that the Shay is. Perhaps if we want a license next time around we should demolish half of the shay and go bust the season before. Its worked for you!'"
Savilles an independent firm of professional property consultants obviously believed it when presented with the evidence by Wakefield.
Your Chariman misses the point, he was willing to accept you weren't in because Crusaders were an expansion club (but with a weaker application than Wakey), but kkicks off because were in and Crusaders are out. Its a bit hypocrtical don't you think?
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| i'd prefer it if my fellow trinity fans were sympathetic to the plight and the feelings of those at halifax.
this is a shallow and empty process. i'm glad we're still in the top division, but i'm not happy in the slightest today with the world of rugby league.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Believe it when I see it. You made the same promises last time and broke them. The Shay is ready now. If you redeveloped all four sides of BV it still wouldnt be half the ground that the Shay is. Perhaps if we want a license next time around we should demolish half of the shay and go bust the season before. Its worked for you!'"
I see little point in you coming on here and crying pal. The applications were professionally assessed on their merits and ours was considered stronger than yours. End of.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"i'd prefer it if my fellow trinity fans were sympathetic to the plight and the feelings of those at halifax.
this is a shallow and empty process. i'm glad we're still in the top division, but i'm not happy in the slightest today with the world of rugby league.'"
I would be sympathetic if we weren't the target for their chairmans rant and fans who clearly don't know much about our club other than believing the same rubbish peddled about for months spouting off.
TBH I am sick of our club being talked down by fans of others.
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| Steele is right, the RFL is wrong to give you lot anything more than a kick up the ass... gutless
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| Quote ="Halifax1987"Steele is right, the RFL is wrong to give you lot anything more than a kick up the ass... gutless'"
did you see the applications
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| Quote ="punkrockandroll"I see little point in you coming on here and crying pal. The applications were professionally assessed on their merits and ours was considered stronger than yours. End of.'"
The thread was slagging off our chairman. Gives me every right to come on here and defend him.
The applications were professionally assessed on merits. The result was you dropping out and Crusaders staying in. Yesterday the Crusaders pulled out, leaving a snap decision by Lewis and Wood. The easiest decision was made, keep Wakefield in but remind them they have to do something with their ground blah blah blah. If BV is redeveloped before the start on next year it is still not a SL standard ground. End of.
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| Quote ="viking.gb"Fax should just keep there cool,And know if no stadium is built this time around they will be in
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thats a fair point , and that goes for a few clubs
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"You are very proud of your communuity work and youth structure. All very easy to set up when you have millions of Sky money coming every year. You have had a decade to build a new stadium and done NOTHING. Why should you be given an extra year?'"
none of the sky money , not 1 penny of it goes into funding this . you need to bring facts to the table for an adult discussion.
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| Quote ="fat faced fan"i'd prefer it if my fellow trinity fans were sympathetic to the plight and the feelings of those at halifax.
this is a shallow and empty process. i'm glad we're still in the top division, but i'm not happy in the slightest today with the world of rugby league.'"
Indeed - I'm glad that a 'proper' club is staying in at the expense of a poor experiment.
It's a shame that fans of two 'proper' clubs are reduced to having an argument over Business plans, stadia and finances. Until the RFL sorts this out I've not much interest for our game.
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| I've no problem with the guy mouthing off although it is probably ill judged, he's obviously disappointed. What I still don't get is why all his ire is aimed towards us specifically. As for certain fax fans coming on here slagging us off have more dignity it's not Wakey who introduced this stupid process
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| Quote ="Schunter"I've no problem with the guy mouthing off although it is probably ill judged, he's obviously disappointed. What I still don't get is why all his ire is aimed towards us specifically. As for certain fax fans coming on here slagging us off have more dignity it's not Wakey who introduced this stupid process'"
I think he is getting at us and not Cas for instance is because we went into Admin all be it for a matter of days.
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| Quote ="Skipdog"Well said Michael Steele.A club in admin,with a ground that hasn't been improved in at least the last 3 years,no approval for a new ground [ugets in ahead of a club that has ticked all the things that Wakey haven't[/u.The rfl have just compounded what every decent supporter of rugby league already knows IT IS BENT.Good luck to 13 teams in SL for the next 3 years and if anyone from Wakey comes anywhere near me asking for my support as a resident of Wakefield there is only 1 thing they will get told P*** **F'"
Please tell us about all these boxes' you have ticked that we have not, apart from the council owned ground and then we will tell you all the boxes we have ticked that you have not.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"The applications were professionally assessed on merits. The result was you dropping out and Crusaders staying in. Yesterday the Crusaders pulled out, leaving a snap decision by Lewis and Wood. The easiest decision was made, keep Wakefield in but remind them they have to do something with their ground blah blah blah. If BV is redeveloped before the start on next year it is still not a SL standard ground. End of.'"
This is also missing the point. If the Halifax application had been stronger than the Wakefield application, Halifax would be in ahead of Wakefield regardless of what happened at Crusaders.
The sad thing about all of this is that it reduces rugby league fans to sniping and denegrating the value of other clubs. That's not what the game is about, IMO. It's a dark day indeed when it comes to this.
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| Quote ="Schunter"I've no problem with the guy mouthing off although it is probably ill judged, he's obviously disappointed. What I still don't get is why all his ire is aimed towards us specifically. As for certain fax fans coming on here slagging us off have more dignity it's not Wakey who introduced this stupid process'"
If you had dropped out and Halifax in would you be saying the same thing?. I have no problem with Wakey as a club but as a franchise applicant you have had a decade to sort your ground out and done nothing!
The RFL sent out a clear message today that financial insolvency is acceptable in Rugby league. Why would Andrew Glover spend his money on a new stadium? All you have to do is wait until six months before the next round of licenses, go bust, then reform and release a press statement claiming the problems are over and you shall be moving into a new ground within 18 months. The RFL will eat it up again.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"The RFL sent out a clear message today that financial insolvency is acceptable in Rugby league. Why would Andrew Glover spend his money on a new stadium? All you have to do is wait until six months before the next round of licenses, go bust, then reform and release a press statement claiming the problems are over and you shall be moving into a new ground within 18 months. The RFL will eat it up again.'"
Now you're just being silly; I understand how hacked off you must be feeling, but when you read the above back in a few days time, you'll be embarassed.
Hopefully, once your Chairman has cooled his jets, he'll make plans to ensure that Fax are primed, ready and waiting to take the SL place of ourselves, Cas, Quins or any other club that doesn't do what it said it would do.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"If you had dropped out and Halifax in would you be saying the same thing?. I have no problem with Wakey, =redbut you have had a decade to sort your ground out and not done anything! The RFL sent out a clear message today that financial insolvency is acceptable in Rugby league. Why would Andre Glover spend his money on a new stadium? All you have to do is wait until six months before the next round of licenses, go bust, then reform and release a press statement claiming the problems are over and you shall be moving into a new ground within 18 months. The RFL will eat it up again.'"
That’s not quite true is it? A new stadium is waiting to be approved and in the meantime BV will be upgraded to a category B standard ground in time for the new season. If neither of these two things transpire, Halifax will be first in line to replace Trinity next year. As long you your chairman outburst hasn’t marked Halifax’s card.
The insolvency thing was removed, or downgraded as a criteria, ironically due to the Crusaders going belly up.
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| Nat owd cock. It's not the wakey club, the wakey clubs current BoD or the wakey clubs fans that has caused this. Maybe they have had x years to do a,b&c and haven't done. No good shouting at the Wakey fans - it's not their fault - nor its it their current BoD.
The RFL made their decision. Whether you agree with it or not, or whether you support the licencing process or not, is purely your subjective opinion.
But yackin off on here may vent your spleen, but is not going to change owt. The process is rotten thru mate. If would still be rotten thru if wakey lost out and you lot came up.
P&R owd cock - P&R!!
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Yes, but you have the RFL/Sky money to spend to get it going in the first place, which then attracts grants. Do you honestly believe Halifax wouldnt be able to attract the same grants.'"
You had sky money even when we did not, you went down as the worst team in SL, you have had ample chances to come up through P+R and did not, the only difference now is you have a developed stadium courtesy mainly of the council and nothing else going for you, to coin a well known phrase used so eloquently by your chairman its a no brainer.
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| look nat unfortunately we can not all share the good fortune halifax had when they moved from thrum hall and threw up their stadium in a matter of ....er ......ermmm...et....hang on a flipping minute
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