independently, Glasshoughton would be a fantastic place for a stadium. I cannot think of a better place to put one to be honest. It has a lot going for it as a location.

What is it about Glasshoughton that would be a deal-breaker for you?

The Mets is a decent name.

R L / S L History justifies cynicism that this would not happen long term

thats fair enough. But part of being a quality SL club would be having the necessary marketing and PR skills to convince you otherwise.

If it were to happen, If it were to be part of a legally binding merger agreement. What would your feelings be?

I have no interest in watching a merged team. If Trinity were to fold/merge then I would still watch RL, without the same interest as I hold now, but not support anyone. If a new Wakefield Trinity emerged and started out at the bottom of the RL ladder I would gladly go and support them.

You actually can't comprehend why fans DON'T want a merger can you?

People get associated with teams through geographic proximity to clubs mainly - why are Cas fans Cas fans? because they're in the main, from Castleford, why are Wakey fans Wakey fans? because on the whole they're from the city of Wakefield.

Both clubs have far too much history to throw together into some merger, that as a Leeds fan you just don't get because you're too biassed and blinkered to see what you're even writing.

Put it this way, WHY would long term fans of both teams support a merger when what would likely happen is the "original" clubs will just be formed again in a lower league - they will be more popular because of HISTORY and ASSOCIATION.

Why would new fans get involved in a team with no geographical association? they wouldn't, with a team name that's ambiguous people would have no reason to be attached to a team at all, playing in SL is not the be all and end all, you don't realise this.




Super League isn't the be all and end all, I'm sure 80%+ of both teams fans would rather be in the Championship as the original teams than be in some ill-fated, poorly thought out, poor judged merger.

If it were to ever happen, RL would lose out on more fans than it would gain, it would also lose 2 of the most historic clubs to ever play the game, nobody but YOU wants it, so why keep trying to talk people into your daft thoughts about something nobody wants? not the fans, not the boards of both clubs. Everyone but YOU know it's a bad idea.

Rant over. (Sorry Wakey fans

couldn't resist

)

You quoted a guy who is not a Wakey fan and like I said how would you know he called it a 'Mickey Mouse' League.

For once I agree with everything you've written.

I understand you dont want a merger, i also understand that you likely want Cas to win the league every year, have the best youth, best overseas players, best attended, best everything club in the whole entire world. I also understand you cant always get what you want. I understand that sometimes that people are prone to wanting things which are selfish and short-sighted. I fully understand why you dont want it, it is simply that what you want isnt the be all and end all.

Then kick Cas out, because if only people from Cas will watch Cas then they have no more growth in them and we are simply prolonging their death. A club with a maximum potential of 7k fans isnt an SL club.

This sentence is just plain nonsense.

Yeah, because that would happen, The RFL would definitely let them in, and there definitely wouldnt be any trademark infringement with calling another club Castleford Tigers, and there would definitely be plenty of spare stadiums just laying around for them to play in.

So why would anyone else go support Cas? There arent that many more people in the town to go, so thats it, they are done with growing.

An ill-fated, poorly thought out merger would be a bad thing. Fortunately there is an option for a well thought out one.


RL is already losing out, Wakefield is at death's door. We lose them we lose a lot, we lose about 6k fans, we lose access to the rest of Wakefield because apparently only people from Cas will ever go watch Cas. We have already lost out.

No but you and your club were quite happy to vote for a system that condems other clubs to the championship for ever, your statement is the exact reason no fans of championship clubs will give 2 hoots if any super league club goes belly up, sorry to say

No not really, I just want a Castleford club and a Wakefield club doing well, winning the league every year isn't everything you know

not to mention both clubs have 2 of the best youth set ups already.



ffs

just because the main part of the support comes from the town doesn't mean everyone does? Cas fans also come from Pontefract, Fev, Wakefield, Selby, Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, Normanton, Knottingly - the support is there, 10,000 for an NL1 final shows that, the new stadium will bring folk in the simple fact is, people don't want to go to Wheldon road anymore.



Turns out it was a fact though.



Trademarks are held by the clubs, not RFL, and there's nothing stopping a Castleford RLFC and Wakefield RLFC being formed, is there?



Why would anyone go support a merged team? that's right, THEY WOULDN'T



How is a merger that literally NOBODY wants a well thought out one? exactly, just shut up about it, we're not interested now, we weren't 15 years ago and we wont be in the future.



Yeah, because those 6000 fans will go watch a merger they never wanted

and nobody ever said fans come EXCLUSIVELY from the location of the team, just the core, but that doesn't suit the crap you're spouting so you ignored it, merge teams you lose 2 historic teams and 13,000+ fans, you don't see this because you're quite clearly an imbecile who knows nothing about the sport, or by the looks of it, business.

Me neither

Sunshine you are about to enter reality that being in the lower leagues not with 3/4 k away following but a dozen from some teams if your lucky, youl be lucky to draw a thousand at Oakwell in the championship

Every post you've made is the same thing, boring.

How would you know sunshine.

no they dont. And when was the last time both clubs were 'doing well'? has it happened yet in the professional era?


Ahhh so when you said people become fans because of geographic location and if that geographic association was lost no-one would support them you were talking complete nonsense as people from Fev, Pontefract, Wakefield, Selby, Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, Normanton, Knottingly will come support a team they have no geographic association with.

erm....? Yes? the sentence which made no sense is now a fact which makes no sense? if you wish.

No the trademarks would be held by the clubs which merged, The RFL administer the competitions, and other than players, money and a place to play and a competition to play in, there is nothing to stop them forming.

Better question, why wouldnt they?

you dont know that. If you do please show your evidence.

So then you happily admit every part of Castleford and Wakefields growth would be available to a merged club then. As only a core will come because of the geographic association. And a merged club in a stronger position to take advantage of that growth, would also be able to attract a core of its own fans.

(Quote) 'Slpitters' - I can't do with 'em!

ffs

just because the main part of the support comes from the town doesn't mean everyone does? Cas fans also come from Pontefract, Fev, Wakefield, Selby, Leeds, Doncaster, Hull, Normanton, Knottingly - the support is there, 10,000 for an NL1 final shows that, the new stadium will bring folk in the simple fact is, people don't want to go to Wheldon road anymore.

the only people from Fev, Ponte, Knottingley and Selby that support Cas are the non drinking social outcasts and your welcome to them

Because the last time you were in the lower leagues you didnt draw much more than 1500 and that at Belle Vue, some of us remember life before super league as well Wakey wernt that well supported in the 80s and 90s

Boring it may be but its very true and like i say is the view of 99% of all the fans in the lower leagues, and trust me in 10 years time still in the lower leagues it will be your view as well. The game is corrupt from top to bottom and the teams in super league go along with it while they are pigging out in the trough, then as soon as it looks like they may be going they start screaming from the roof tops, the whole game stinks to high heaven