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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd still have Grix over Ratchford for now. He isn't quite ready yet'"
No but think how much more JK could get out of him rather than big Steve, lets face it i think he has a far better working relationship with the burger van lady than he does with his own squad. Karl Harrison may not have been a master coach but at least he gave his team pride.
Ask yourself, if you were Ratchford which club would you rather be a part of?
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| Quote ="CHESHIRE CAT 57"Think you mean big Shaun'"
Thats the one..
The one who looks like the bad guy from danger mouse.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"No but think how much more JK could get out of him rather than big Steve, lets face it i think he has a far better working relationship with the burger van lady than he does with his own squad. Karl Harrison may not have been a master coach but at least he gave his team pride.
Ask yourself, if you were Ratchford which club would you rather be a part of?'"
not as simple as that though is it. Otherwise half of our team would be at HullKR; Hudds; Leeds; Sts. Shaun could be telling him he won't be playing first team with us for a while and if he stays someone with the big bucks will pick him up instead.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have him but he's not the guy to lead the line.
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| Quote ="PopTart"not as simple as that though is it. Otherwise half of our team would be at HullKR; Hudds; Leeds; Sts. Shaun could be telling him he won't be playing first team with us for a while and if he stays someone with the big bucks will pick him up instead.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have him but he's not the guy to lead the line.'"
yeah but with brough and newton would he reallybe doing that though anyway? i'll be honest i know all about him anyway but as long as our 7 and 9 are as experienced as they may be it might not matter
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| Quote ="PopTart"not as simple as that though is it. Otherwise half of our team would be at HullKR; Hudds; Leeds; Sts. Shaun could be telling him he won't be playing first team with us for a while and if he stays someone with the big bucks will pick him up instead.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have him but he's not the guy to lead the line.'" Richard moore, Ricky Bibey,Oliver Wilkes, Scott Grix How there careers have changed under JK,Given timesame could happen to Ratchford.
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| Iv noticed everybody seems to have Korky in thier line up....am i correct in thinking we haven't signed him for next season or is there something in the pipeline?
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| Quote ="LewHart"Iv noticed everybody seems to have Korky in thier line up....am i correct in thinking we haven't signed him for next season or is there something in the pipeline?'"
im sure he signed a 2 yr deal at huddersfield... so unless they choose to release him or we offer to buy him, he'll be going back to huddersfield.
Sculthorpe seems to be getting a game for huddersfield and i believe his contract with us expires at the end of this season making him a free agent, if hudderfield want him and can agree terms, they may consider releasing korkidas, in which case, id see us as favs to sign him...
presuming kear wants him back....
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"im sure he signed a 2 yr deal at huddersfield... so unless they choose to release him or we offer to buy him, he'll be going back to huddersfield.
Sculthorpe seems to be getting a game for huddersfield and i believe his contract with us expires at the end of this season making him a free agent, if hudderfield want him and can agree terms, they may consider releasing korkidas, in which case, id see us as favs to sign him...
presuming kear wants him back....'"
sculthorpe played well in the 2nd half on sunday, made a big difference to the momentum of the game. hopefully brown will take a punt and in doing so give us first pop at korki (as long as the price is right)
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| we keep saying Millard/blanch and ive seen the comment re Gleeson/george and agree centre/winger partnerships are a crucial area that gets overlooked, but at the moment both these appear to be right sided. so whos playing on the left.
a top class & effectice centre is something we have lacked for a few years everyone goes on about our wingers not scoring loads. but the best wingers or top scorers have class inside of them.
Andy Fletcher (my persosnal fav) - Keith Smith at centre
Martin Offiah - Darren Wright @ widnes - new how to put the winger away
then Gene Miles and Tuigamala at wigan
even Jon Wells scored at cas outside decent centres.
Ade Gardener - Gidley.
Lesley Vainakolo - Shontayne Hape.
IF we get Millard looking at the way he plays Blanch, George or Murphy could have a great season.
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| Quote ="LewHart"Iv noticed everybody seems to have Korky in thier line up....am i correct in thinking we haven't signed him for next season or is there something in the pipeline?'"
Korki got a 3 year deal & still has 2 years left, I can`t see us paying a fee, whether Hudds will release him, who knows?
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| Quote ="vastman"I have no idea, which makes me the most honest poster on these forums.
You and some others on here think you know, you always think you know but more often than not you don't.
RL is a rumour machine from start to finish and you can't trust anyone IMHO, and anyone who posts stuff like done deal is a fool IMHO, which includes Wakey fans. Those who I know who do know the truth are never silly enough to post it, why would anyone with the clubs best interests at heart do such a thing?
I wouldn't care if Atkins took me for a cosy dinner for two at the Toby inn and told me he was off I still wouldn't believe it until it was officially announced. Sadly may take pub gossip and friend of a friend stuff as gospel and it simply isn't, it's still just gossip no matter how high up and trusted the alleged source is.
It could be 100% correct but anyone who 100% believes what gets posted on here is an even bigger fool than those who post the rumour.
xxHoneyxx says he's staying - so who do I believe? I hope it's correct for your sake, you need one as it's been a while. Me personally I don't understand the joy so many of you seem to find in telling the bad news which again IMHO it is.'"
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2.George
3.Atkins
4.Millard
5.Williams
6.Grix
7.Brough
8.Tronc
9.Newton
10.Stoisic
11.Furguson
12.Morrisson
13.Demetriou
14.Latu
15.Moore
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17.Korkidas
Would be awesome.
Drew, Blanch, Obst, Wilkes,Murphy, Henderson to go along with Bibey, Pitts.
But who knows, i dont.
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| Quote ="Acatinbullland"we keep saying Millard/blanch and ive seen the comment re Gleeson/george and agree centre/winger partnerships are a crucial area that gets overlooked, but at the moment both these appear to be right sided. so whos playing on the left.
a top class & effectice centre is something we have lacked for a few years everyone goes on about our wingers not scoring loads. but the best wingers or top scorers have class inside of them.
Andy Fletcher (my persosnal fav) - Keith Smith at centre
Martin Offiah - Darren Wright @ widnes - new how to put the winger away
then Gene Miles and Tuigamala at wigan
even Jon Wells scored at cas outside decent centres.
Ade Gardener - Gidley.
Lesley Vainakolo - Shontayne Hape.
IF we get Millard looking at the way he plays Blanch, George or Murphy could have a great season.'"
your as old as me !
i remeber that, until smith got poorly though!
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews/australian-stars-face-deportation/2009/08/19/1250362103652.html'"
"Fringe first-grader"
Thats the bit that worries me a little.
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Was already thinking about this today after i heard about Millard, so IF Atkins goes & we sign (as i think we will) Stefan Ratchford, i would go for a starting 13 of;
1. Matt Blaymire
2. Damien Blanch
3. Daryl Millard
4. Sean Gleeson
5. Luke George
6. Stefan Ratchford
7. Danny Brough
8. Shane Tronc
9. Terry Newton
10. Michael Korkidas
11. Dale Ferguson
12. Glenn Morrison
13. Jason Demetriou
14. Sam Obst
15. Tevita Leo Latu
16. Richard Moore
17. James Stosic
Thought the test run of the Gleeson-George wing went well on Sunday, & like everyone else I'm already watering at the thought of what a Millard-Blanch could be like if they gel & are fit & well.
Roll on 2010.'" sorry aint going to happen with stefan has he still has 2 years of is contract left so that means a fee and sorry 2 say u aint rolling in it and if u did pay a fee how much would u be prepared 2 pay
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| Quote ="gally1974"sorry aint going to happen with stefan has he still has 2 years of is contract left so that means a fee and sorry 2 say u aint rolling in it and if u did pay a fee how much would u be prepared 2 pay'"
Whatever we get paid for Atkins (or at least some of it)
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| Quote ="gally1974"sorry aint going to happen with stefan has he still has 2 years of is contract left so that means a fee and sorry 2 say u aint rolling in it and if u did pay a fee how much would u be prepared 2 pay'"
AHHH i have been over and over with you at length about this, a contract is only valid when both parties agree upon it, if a player goes to the club and asks to leave because he feels he could fit in better somewhere else what can you do? Keep playing him? Keep paying him? Or look for a buyer uses the transfer fee if need be and find someone who does want to play!
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| Quote ="Haywire""Fringe first-grader"
Thats the bit that worries me a little.'"
Look on the brightside.... Bradford can't even sign "fringe" players these days"
The same was said about Jake Webster (HKR) and look how good he is!
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"Look on the brightside.... Bradford can't even sign "fringe" players these days"
The same was said about Jake Webster (HKR) and look how good he is!'"
Fairly sure though for every Jake Webster there is a dozen Ned Catic's or Ben Jeffries or Kevin Henderson's or any other fringe player who has done nowt (or underacheived) over here.
Just think there is a right fuss being whipped up by some of the lads regarding this possible signing - based on a montage probably cobbled together by his agent (or mam). Potentially just another run of the mill import for me who may, or may not, pay off if indeed he does come.
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| Quote ="Haywire"Fairly sure though for every Jake Webster there is a dozen Ned Catic's or Ben Jeffries or Kevin Henderson's or any other fringe player who has done nowt (or underacheived) over here.
Just think there is a right fuss being whipped up by some of the lads regarding this possible signing - based on a montage probably cobbled together by his agent (or mam). Potentially just another run of the mill import for me who may, or may not, pay off if indeed he does come.'" I don't think Kevin Henderson has under achieved he hasn't come over here as a starlet and has put every thing into the game especially this season, as for the rumoured coming of Daryl Millard I'm looking forward to him coming(if he is ) he has to be worth a try as at this time we haven't yet got our young lads ready, they are knocking on the door but they do need time
our foundation for the future has been laid, we now need to build on the good work of this year
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| Quote ="Sandal Wild Cat"have thought that too, but lets face it Sam could at a push play aywhere 1-7 because of his speed, skill & mean takle for such a little lad.
Ha. Method to my so-called madness.'"
Think thats the appropriate word in this instance
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| Quote ="Haywire"Fairly sure though for every Jake Webster there is a dozen Ned Catic's or Ben Jeffries or Kevin Henderson's or any other fringe player who has done nowt (or underacheived) over here.
Just think there is a right fuss being whipped up by some of the lads regarding this possible signing - based on a montage probably cobbled together by his agent (or mam). Potentially just another run of the mill import for me who may, or may not, pay off if indeed he does come.'"
Jake Webster is good but lets not go over the top on him.
Ned didn't achieve the hights expected but BJ came as a young gun and I think we got good money out of him. (as Bulls are now)
Kevin Henderson came with even less fanfare. He came from Leigh in their disaster year and was injured for a lot of that. We got him and he has worked hard in every minute he plays. In the 2006 season he was fantastic for us as he kept switching positions to fill gaps and was the one at the end of the games (especially Cas) when we were on the rack and he just drove it away from centre and gave everybody a rest. He'll never be a star but I think he has been a great low cost aquisition for Trinity.
and isn't a quota/NFT player either.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Jake Webster is good but lets not go over the top on him.
Ned didn't achieve the hights expected but BJ came as a young gun and I think we got good money out of him. (as Bulls are now)
Kevin Henderson came with even less fanfare. He came from Leigh in their disaster year and was injured for a lot of that. We got him and he has worked hard in every minute he plays. In the 2006 season he was fantastic for us as he kept switching positions to fill gaps and was the one at the end of the games (especially Cas) when we were on the rack and he just drove it away from centre and gave everybody a rest. He'll never be a star but I think he has been a great low cost aquisition for Trinity.
and isn't a quota/NFT player either.'"
Take away Hendo's ridiculous attempt at an offload against Quins the other year and he has very rairly let us down, certainly no more than many others who seem to escape any critisism.
Yes, he is never going to be a world beater but when others are looking for a breather he always puts his hand up to take the ball in and puts himself forward to make the tackles. Every side needs that kind and although i dont know the figures im pretty sure he will be in the bottom half of the earners at the club.
I certainly wouldnt be upset if he was signed on for next year. We as a club will always need his type well ever we are not bringing in the same revenue as others.
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