Ban them for life? But then again, they could go to RU I suppose

I'd like to see the rfl show lists of people that are tested year, look at the people who have been banned ovr the years ryan hudson, sean penckywinc(sp?) phil berry,Maitua, wendel sailor and i believe there was a youngster at st's RU MattStevens and many more!!
Its is obvious this is going on in sport with prob many more players using and touching drugs in general performance inhancing or not.. Surely a lengthy ban, mybe rehab and some community work for the club so they are still in the public eye and cannot just hide away from the problem

great talent just a bit dopey

The cost to the police to test pi55 after a person requests a test by not giving breath is £120. They are only looking for booze, the WADA test is for everything known to man, roids, coke, weed, e's, and the list goes on with god knows how many meds that are banned.

I liked Hock, and do not put his performance down to a sniff, a very good player, with the brain the size of a microscopic pond life dweller !

Very good, very ugly, and now very very dumb.

I also agree with jonh, this is a big problem not just in our game, but at evry level of sport.

Well from Wakey's point of view, I'd hope we'd be 2 points a season or so to the good from it, as on at least two occasions over the last 2 or so years he has rampaged through us and made the difference.

Not just a problem in the game, but in society!! This is probably not the place, but it is rife between the age of 18 to 35........and anybody the goes out regularly, and if they know what to look for can see it!!!

The price of a 'gram' is now not considered overly expensive, can get it as ‘cheap’ as £25

I don't see it myself but my lads have told me some stories about clubs and the like, its shocking, just glad i'm over 35

Ha......18 to 35 was just an average.......but in truth its not just clubs.....have been out in most pubs in Rothwell in Leeds and can see it in them all!!!!

Ha ha i'm well past 35 anyway



I don't get out much but if anyone offered me anything they would get a LARGE slap

Mate from my experience it is all clubs to a greater or lesser extent.

Regards how you solve it, its an old chestnut but education is in my opinion the only way. I have seen lads who have confirmed to me they have been on the stuff on a Friday/Saturday, tested at training on a Monday and pass.


The biggest problem is within most junior set ups but those that go unpinished obviously continue this through into first team.

I have no doubt that the influx of Australians into our game has increased the lads participation in this, it is rife in the NRL but also our game is a reflection of society generally sadly.

Proven that it does not work. It's been taught in schools for many years and people still turn a blind eye to what they have been taught and still use drugs.


Some people learn from there first time and never use it again and some just get hooked on them.

I cant agree with this I am afraid at all, it has been a drug used in england socialy since the late 80s and was first mostly used in places like london - it has since made its way up north so has nothing to do with overseas players at all

We are talking about cocaine here not heroin it is not a drug that is proven to be addictive it is more a problem of been used socially with friends, i would bet most players using it do so with people who are not even in the profession

thats right mate dont put blame on others if these cheats and idiots think they can get away with it they will imoi would ban them for life get them out of the game

Problem is that generally those doing the educating know less than those they are trying to educate. It is no use telling kids that all drugs are bad and evil and make you sick/ill or kill you when all around them they see people having a seemingly great and safe time using them.

He's a cheat, the likes of him Hudson and the rest should be banned from our game for life, if union want em, let em have em.
The longer we let these to$$ers remain the longer we will have this problem.
I'm sure these things go on in all our clubs, but like the kid says on the announcements, rugby league is a family sport!! And we don't want drugs in our family!!!!

That is very true, I used to get fed up of all these drug experts coming in telling us stuff we already knew, so if i knew they were going to be there I just did not bother showing up.


Everyone knows that using drugs is not a good thing even if you have not had any education

I was just talking about drugs in general.

Once you have had any sort of drug you will try something people say is more harsh.

No matter how much education you get I don't think it has much affect on wether you take drugs or not

Raised a smile!

This is just the sort of rubbish that kids are told as fact which is in fact not true.

so turn a blind eye and don't even try



i wonder how many posters would admit to taking banned substances on here .

Cocaine is highly addictive.

Miracles do happen

Not saying that at all. But imo education will not change opinions of most.

When I was at school all these drug experts came in and it still did not prevent people from taking drugs....

says who? i think you'll find there are huge swathes of people who would completely disagree with that statement and who themselves are extremely intelligent and successful. that however is another debate, the point being here that hock is in a position whereby he has an obligation to his employers not to do anything which may impair his performance. using cocaine is likely to have a detrimental effect on his performance, especially if used over a sustained period.
someone called him a cheat which i think is off the mark. i cant see how using cocaine would in anyway make him play better.