Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602

Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602

Not sure about that once he finds out you are helping to fund legal action against his buddies!

Quote ="alleycat"Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602'" Sir Eric and Rachel Weis

Quote ="alleycat"Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602'" Sir Eric and Rachel Weis

Well we'll just have to see

That was the old GH scheme

We sold Westerman to pay for planning fees and the expectation was that Waystone would give us the land and we would have to find the cost to build the stadium selling WR.

The new plan has all been entirely funded by Lateral in terms of planning. Cost to build the stadium will be cross-funded by the rest of the development.

Just got back from a few days away to see all this depressing news. Whilst I always try to be a half glass full person it was always in the back of my mind that there would be a further sting in the tale as WMDC clearly have no interest in the club and how valuable it is as a brand to our city.
Our labour run council have to be one of the most incompetent going and I really hope that MC & the trust are willing to fight for what is right as they have my families 100% support.
Shame on you WMDC & YC. Also shame on the Wakefield Express for publishing such a biased one sided article.
Like others I am prepared to commit money to a fighting fund and will support the club wherever possible.
This whole murky pond of secret meetings, back-scratching & failed promises needs to be brought out into the open once and for all.

"The future of the new Belle Vue proposal now rests with the Club and [ua[/u Trust who need to produce a robust business plan that clearly demonstrates how they will generate income to meet the running costs and commercial rent."

From the original publicity splash.

With hindsight, the use of the indefinite article rather than the definite gives it all away. It was always "a" Trust, not "the" Trust. Rodney was always there.

Quote ="alleycat"Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602'" Sir Weis is involved with some hefty charitable trusts but all of his directorships are Manchester-way. He is involved with Aubrey Weis, who appears to be a property investor of some weight. He was a director of Fitters (Wakefield) Ltd, but the charge on their business related to shops in Nottingham, and he was with someone called Benny Stone. It's an unusual move.

Quote ="alleycat"Just to muddy the waters further, I spotted this a few weeks ago. Can't see a connection to RW or anyone else we know about so hopefully it's just a red herring... https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10928602'" Sir Weis is involved with some hefty charitable trusts but all of his directorships are Manchester-way. He is involved with Aubrey Weis, who appears to be a property investor of some weight. He was a director of Fitters (Wakefield) Ltd, but the charge on their business related to shops in Nottingham, and he was with someone called Benny Stone. It's an unusual move.

The end of year accounts for Wigan Warriors show that in 2014, £279,381 was paid in stadium rental costs. 17 home fixtures were played at the DW, 2 of which were challenge cup games and 2 were play-off games. In 2015, £322,824 was paid in stadium rental costs.

Taken from wigan forum

Completely agree. Like you and others have said, I'd happily stick some cash in towards any fight.

this is so so bad

Why does that not surprise me?
I actually said he was an interesting new poster, not an interesting post.
Wonder why he's posted on the Cas board about it and not on here, or maybe he has under a different name.

Back on topic is the deadline 31st Oct, still time

Up the Trin

My sentiment exactly M62 J30

You two just don't get it - we've been stitched up good and proper, smell the coffee lads.

Can't help you on Wigan or Salford pal but I know what the figures for Hull FC were 3 years ago.
Surprisingly they weren't charged per year but per match.
It was £15,000 per game so if you add a bit of inflation in it would be about £250,000 per season.
To be fair its twice the size of Belle Vue so half that would seem reasonable.

In my rather large stack of 'Stadium' papers I have copy of the original draft heads of terms for the lease, submitted by the Trust and WMDC to the HM Inspector Harold Stephens, at the public inquiry.

Would you like to know what it says... or can you guess? The word Peppercorn is in there...

We should not loose sight of what was promised to the citizens of Wakefield at the PI, in return for a rather substantial piece of land being lifted out of Greenbelt Colin Mackie was going to build a 12,000 capacity stadium (upon receipt of £2m from the Trust via WMDC) and he was going to lease that to the Community Trust on a 99 year lease for a peppercorn rent. The Trust would then lease the stadium to Wakefield Trinity as anchor tenant, the details of that lease were not part of the HOT because they didn't need to be, but it was always understood that the Trust would lease the stadium to the Club on a FIR lease and that annual lease value would have been small, to primarily allow the Trust to meet it's legal requirements (pay the accountant etc) and also provide a growing sinking fund to protect the stadium in the long term, if the current club ever went pop or was relegated etc.

Also, yes, it was always a Community Stadium project and it was envisaged the Trust would facilitate and fund/subsidise community use around the Clubs requirement but, the special circumstance that was used by Mackie and WMDC to justify the lifting of this land out of Greenbelt was Wakefield Trinity's need for a new stadium for the long term future of the Rugby League and the Club in the City.

Now, revisit Andy Wallheads (Peter Box written) statement...

I can tell you that the heads of term that the Trust and Club put together reflect, in principle, the above.

The Trust and the Club do not have mandate to accept anything less that was promised, because anything less is and will continue to short change the citizens of Wakefield!

Thanks for the update IA.

I do get it, I'm just keeping calm waiting for the club/trusts next move.

Up the Trin

What's the next stage in the battle IA. Could MC still negotiate a better deal than they're offering of is it a case of that's the deal and that's it?
Up the Trin

It's F em time, they're taking the Michael, take em to court, if we lose we move to Dewsbury or Fev.
#boxinthedock

And even if we win we end up at Dewsbury or Fev. They are hardly going to be building us a stadium afterwards.

What deal 'they are' offering? The only pieces of paper that have been produced, have been produced by the club and the trust. The club and the trust have not seen one scrap of paper from WMDC, Mackie or 88M, not even a single sentence. They don't even take any meeting minutes!!! They got sent a copy of our proposed HoT and then ran to the press, without the usual and common courtesy of sending it to us first, and said that the club had broken off negotiation!

Email Andy Wallhead and ask him for a copy of the documentation that they have produced... you will be waiting a while!

Nope they're possibly not, but I'm of the "bite your nose off to spite your face" generation, make them squirm, let them feel what we're feeling, if we lose we move on.
As an aside, if we win, couldn't Box be demoted sacked? Could Yorkcourt be forced to build a stadium and if they declined could they be sued and forced out of business? No idea but wondered where it could all end.

BBC, Look north, Calendar, Daily sport? Has anyone of these carried this news?