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| Quote ="Another Cas Fan"Quote ="vastman"I shouldn’t think it’s a surprise to anyone to find out I’m not a Labour voter. But one of there policy pledges that I do hope they pursue with much vigour is to heavily reduce planning restrictions.
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Now I’d never want to see a McDonalds next to Stone Henge[/u, who would. However I fail to see what you could possibly build on that stretch of Donny road that could make it look worse!
It’s not that it’s terrible, it’s just a nothing place. Mainly cheap shops and light industry and half a dozen houses, most rented I suspect.
Apart from a few basic considerations, access and parking it should be a zone where only minimal planning is required. I can’t think of anything we could build that wouldn’t actually improve the place - especially as we have our own parking.
In an area like Agbrigg/BV a club like ours shouldn’t have to face planning restrictions. Much of it isn’t residential and the bits of it near the ground that are, are low grade housing. That’s not being snobbish either it’s just how it is. One of my best mates was born there and grew up there. He loves the place even now, but he always wanted to move on up.
If you’re ever going to improve run down areas you have to allow people total freedom. There is nothing that Trinity in particular could do that wouldn’t benefit the place. We’ve already made it look twenty times better!
Dear Mr Kear, let the MEs of this world do there stuff unencumbered. I’d trust them far more than your average planning committee or career planning officer'"
Neither would I , the drive thru would be horrendous'"
And you would still have to park up after going through drive through and wait 20 minutes for a macdonalds employee to walk round looking at number plates and walking in circles with your order.
No place boils my innards like that sorry excuse for a chain. My kids love it but it’s ran with zero efficiency or customer service in mind.
Good to see that the coffee shop idea is a viable option. That was the first thing I suggested many months ago as one of the viable options that could generate revenue on a busy Doncaster road. Especially if you can make a drive through section and utilise the stadium car park for customer parking.
Fresh coffee, simple danish and tray bake options are all that’s needed along with a whopping big sign before the entrance to car park.
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| Quote ="vastman" It would be prudent to get planning permission even if you don’t actually intend to use those particular plans. It would allow Matt to see how this season goes and then, if needed, he would have a base to upgrade it from.'"
Agreed
This just made me realise how far we’ve come from just a few short years ago when we couldn’t even afford the planning application fee let alone actually build anything
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| Quote ="PopTart"It should still follow the process.
You can't just say the houses are cheap around there so you can do what you want.
However I agree it should be a quick process and there is little reason to say no.'"
Yes it should but the process should match the area. In theory there are planning zones but it they are way to open to interpretation and require a committee, which usually spells disaster in any situation.
Simple really.
Hardest, areas of historic interest or natural beauty.
Medium, residential areas. Whether that be Sandal or Kettlethorpe, if its an area that has only ever really been a place where people live then building anything other than houses should be very difficult.
Low, mixed usage area like Donny road. Should take only a few weeks to get through and with no committee required.
None, industrial, so long as it passes safety rules and building regs and is nowhere near the first two in my list, crack on.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"https://www.instagram.com/p/DC-IV67OVk_/?igsh=OXp1Y2NnN2p2N3lp
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Looking at this a couple of observations that result in questions. Is the pathway that separates the North Stand upper terrace from lower being moved nearer to the pitch and if so does provide an opportunity for a little more terracing leading up to the top end? It could be maximising the space for supporters, just my observation from this image
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| Well I'm delighted we are transforming Belle Vue , I'm a traditionalist and was never a fan of moving out to some soulless out of town stadium .
Heritage and history are important to me and Rugby of both codes have been played on this site since 1873 , you simply can't buy that kind of heritage and history .
Even though I'm not a Wakefield man Belle Vue means the world to me , it would never have been the same moving out for me personally .
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| Quote ="BarnsleyTrinity"Well I'm delighted we are transforming Belle Vue , I'm a traditionalist and was never a fan of moving out to some soulless out of town stadium .
Heritage and history are important to me and Rugby of both codes have been played on this site since 1873 , you simply can't buy that kind of heritage and history .
Even though I'm not a Wakefield man Belle Vue means the world to me , it would never have been the same moving out for me personally .'"
I think we’ve ended up in a very good place.
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| Quote ="BarnsleyTrinity"Well I'm delighted we are transforming Belle Vue , I'm a traditionalist and was never a fan of moving out to some soulless out of town stadium .
Heritage and history are important to me and Rugby of both codes have been played on this site since 1873 , you simply can't buy that kind of heritage and history .
Even though I'm not a Wakefield man Belle Vue means the world to me , it would never have been the same moving out for me personally .'"
I agree. The fact that this is one of the most liked post in ages shows you are not on your own.
I was in support of new ground if it was the only way forward but I much prefer to stay at Belle Vue.
I've been watching rugby here since the 70s. I want to keep doing it and luckily I am now doing it in a progressively more modern stadium.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I agree. The fact that this is one of the most liked post in ages shows you are not on your own.
I was in support of new ground if it was the only way forward but I much prefer to stay at Belle Vue.
I've been watching rugby here since the 70s. I want to keep doing it and luckily I am now doing it in a progressively more modern stadium.'"
Totally agree PT, Newmarket if it had come off I would have been there. But Belle Vue is where my heart is and I've never lost the excitement and expectation of walking down Doncaster Road to watch Wakefield play. I hope to do so for a few more years watching the club grow.
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| Just to clarify a few things.
NM was actually a last ditch thing that Ted cobbled up, and to be fair he had very little option.
The original scheme was to have been Thornes Park. Forgetting the fact that it turned out that the Council didn’t own the land, i personally think that one would have been a total winner. In many ways Thornes is better placed than BV.
I was a fan of Thornes. I was not keen on NM. Ted was, but the SWAG group was split. Not bitterly, just in preference. I don’t know if NM would have worked, nobody does, but for me it was to far out. Had it been in Stanley proper then yeah it would have been ok. But it was effectively in the middle of nowhere.
In the intervening 20 years Salfords experience has proved that to be a bad thing, but at the time it was nowhere near as obvious as it is today. That said, HKR ground was once considered a white elephant, but it’s doing ok now.
Truth is that on field success is a huge part of the success of any stadium.
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| some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd )... but this pic shows the extent of the current upgrade... I love watching this stuff!!
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| Quote ="Spookisback"some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd
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There is a more up to date one than that kicking around. It shows a few more improvements, mostly cosmetic but interesting. I’ll find the link.
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Quote ="Spookisback"some great drone footage from the GKO films dude... (sorry I don't know how to link a video... I'm sure it will be attached soon by a techno nerd
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Link.
https://youtu.be/aU4knIvwfTs?si=WQC1E_aS3aGAOM1M
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Link.
https://youtu.be/aU4knIvwfTs?si=WQC1E_aS3aGAOM1M
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| Quote ="vastman"There is a more up to date one than that kicking around. It shows a few more improvements, mostly cosmetic but interesting. I’ll find the link.'"
I think this is the most up to date having watched it
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| That latest drone footage doesn't give a close shot of the north west corner which looks to be included in this latest groundwork project.
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"I think this is the most up to date having watched it'"
Could be, there are a few of them.
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| pitch looks fairly well after being re-seeded
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"That latest drone footage doesn't give a close shot of the north west corner which looks to be included in this latest groundwork project.'"
Might be me but the drone footage doesn’t fully do the changes justice. It’s probably due to works still ongoing in places. I’m also sure once those boxes on west and a roof is put across 3/4 and cladding it will look much more impressive on drone footage.
Interestingly the new east corner has been dug up as far as the turnstiles ( I’m sure this will likely be still re-utilised as new terracing in the corner). I wonder if they will also be replacing the old turnstiles there.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse" I wonder if they will also be replacing the old turnstiles there.'"
I hope they keep them, even if they don't use them. They've been a landmark feature on that route into Wakey for decades (First time I saw them was in 1973 passing through Wakey on the Leeds Utd Supporters bus from Donny), and are representative of the stadiums heritage.
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| Quote ="AgbriggAmbler"I hope they keep them, even if they don't use them. They've been a landmark feature on that route into Wakey for decades (First time I saw them was in 1973 passing through Wakey on the Leeds Utd Supporters bus from Donny), and are representative of the stadiums heritage.'"
I'd probably been going to Belle Vue for about 5 years before I even saw that frontage. As a youngster, walking from town, we either climbed over the wall down the western perimeter or entered using the turnstiles down that side. We would then walk behind the South Stand and risk slicing our fingers off climbing over the corrugated metal walls of the gents toilets. We were poor back then.
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| The drone footage does show just how little a percentage of the N Stand Terracing was upgraded, looks to be around 30% of it.
I’ve said before that I’d love the whole terrace done with a matching roof to the E Stand.
I wonder if there’d be any mileage in removing the N Stand roof and repurposing it as a temporary fix along the West Stand
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| Quote ="The Avenger"The drone footage does show just how little a percentage of the N Stand Terracing was upgraded, looks to be around 30% of it.
I’ve said before that I’d love the whole terrace done with a matching roof to the E Stand.
I wonder if there’d be any mileage in removing the N Stand roof and repurposing it as a temporary fix along the West Stand'"
It’s kind of sad and dissapointing we ended up with that small section upgraded and so much wasted space. You could easily get at least another 1000-1500 up there.
If I recall correctly it got scaled back a few times. Was supposed to have cladding, platform and refreshments at the back too.
Had it covered more of the old terrace it could have been much better.
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| I was down at the north-western corner of the ground this afternoon and I can confirm that this area appears to be fully included in the re-terracing as per the front of the north stand. The corner also includes those plastic pipes whatever they are for.
the south terrace metal railings have been removed and excavations have started along that side to accommodate the LED advertising.
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