Well a fair few have. Clearly a player that divides opinion. I don't mind that it's just that one side rather arrogantly assumes they are right and those who disagree are dullards - odd double standard isn't it

No they didn't mention it, they replied to a question to which they had to say something - not quite the same thing is it.

My opinion is not based on arrogance, but on comparisons with other loose forwards I have seen play.
He is a fine player no problem, but I just do not think he is as good as more modern players such as Farrell and Sculthorpe.
Then further back Reilly and Norton.
Then even further back Whitley, Turner and Karalius.
Seen ‘em all play for club and country and it’s just my opinion that all the aforementioned were superior.

As per the BBC website.....



I think that says it all really.

The question was the signing of db so I'll watch again at 6 now run a long to mummy

I think SOL has been a good player and great club man throughout his career however I would not be putting him in the same league as the likes of Farrell no matter how many trophy's he has "Led" Wigan to throughout the years - Agree Wigan look better with him on the pitch, but we looked better with Liam Finn on the pitch last season and I would not be putting him down as a fantastic player.

I think sometimes as a sport we over-sell a players ability which is probably due to many years of Eddie and Stevo labelling your average joe`s as "World class" - One that particular sticks in my head is a few years back Stevo labelling Richard Horne "World class" as he once threw a half decent pass. One player I have never got the hype around is Micky Mac, the whole argument surrounding who was the better nine out of him and Roby really did have me baffled. Can we not just say a players a good player when they are a good player? If a Richard Horne is world class then where do we go for the likes of Thurston and Inglis?

Whatever people think about O'loughlin, they are arguing about how good he was at his peak. Those days are well and truly gone. The point I was making is that in my opinion he is no longer capable of playing RL at SL level and yet Wigan have given him a contract.

Where as Brough for all his sins and bad attitude, if signed, would be capabale of physically competing for at least one more season

I know and I answered it, calm down fella and you'll hurt your brain.

Yeah but it doesn't does it.

Carrying on the correct logic, if you'd have offered me both players 8 years ago I'd have still taken Brough by a mile.

Correct. People have been labelling SOL as world class since the first time he played - it's been said so often that many people see it as fact but others don't. Added to that Wigan fans like Cas fans are renowned for over egging young players SOL is one Westerman at Cas and currently at Wigan it's Manfredi who although he's a decent player he can do no more than half a dozen other SL wingers. Yet after one game back some Wigan fans were disgusted that he hadn't been picked for GB!

Never underestimate the power of propaganda and just how much of it there is in RL.

Aye and they're a lot quicker to hype up players from the big 4/5, where it's far easier to impress with a "better" group of players around you.

I agree he comes with a lot of baggage both on and off the field. What really troubles me is that our recent track record with bad boys of RL is not too impressive. We have handled the aftermath but the problem is we have not stopped them from relapsing.
I fail to understand why a 36 year old who I believe is now having trouble accepting that he is not the player he was and his frustration leads to his on field stupidity which we cannot afford.
We did lose a few close games but Hampshire was not playing at 7 so we should give him a chance for a full season. We have three who can play in the halves we don’t need a fourth especially one like Brough.

As a matter of interest which side do you come down on?

Simon woolfuld speaking on radio Leeds pretty much confirmed that broughy has signed for trinity

Glad to see someone else can see the irony in some of his posts wayne!

I spoke to Richard Thewlis on Sunday he told me that Giants would be announcing the signing of Frawley on Monday and that Uate would be announced on Thursday.I asked him about Brough he said he was definitely going to Wakefield but had not signed as yet as the Wakefield chairman was on holiday and he was confident that when he got back that the deal will go through and Brough is without a doubt going to Wakefield

Well if that's the case, like it or lump it the anti Brough brigade need to get used to it

[Uate is a great - frawley not so much.

pre season training must be starting soon????

It’s not irony I’m playing you.

Does this herald a silly money bid for Johnstone or have you got another wackaday theory on this one?

Well we know which side you come down on aye Wayne, the only side that matters, your side

Why would signing a half back trigger a bid for a winger?
Stop trying to be clever, it doesn't suit you.

Can not wait to see Broughy in that number 7 shirt next year, surely a player of his calibre can help us push for the top 4.

I was happy with the squad anyway but this is just icing on the cake.

Great work MC/CC

Not sure what your point is or why you've singled me out personally unless it's my turn to feel the force of your unstable opinions, I neither know nor care what your position is regarding Brough I don't have an opinion one way or the other as I doubt my opinion will be taken into consideration it's none of my business, I just find it funny that people get upset with decisions that are perceived to be in the best interests of the club by people running it.
Good luck anyway with your plans to alienate yourself from the rest of the posters on here, your certainly winning on that score

All the bickering and the club haven't even officially confirmed or denied it.

Imagine if he did sign and have a bad game the board will be on meltdowm then .

If it is true, an organising half, with a good rugby brain and kicking game, who at the latter part of his career is still deceptively quick, well it's something we've been lacking, welcome back to the club Danny.

Could well end up been a shrewd signing. Well done MC and all concerned.

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