I'm with you there......as long as we win!?

I have not seen the Section 106 Agreement but I know that the Inspector is discussing Conditions and the Section 106 tomorrow before closing Statements from YCP, WMDC and LCC.

The Inspector is a very intelligent man and he is not going to allow YCP, assuming he recommends approval of the application, to build out all the B8, Hotel, Restaraunt etc. without some guarantee that the Stadium is built.

I think it is resasonable to allow YCP to develop some of the site before the Stadium in order to receive receipts to fund their investment into the Stadium and I suspect that they will be allowed to build some of the B8 prior to the Stadium.

As they have said work on the Stadium will commence mid 2012 and take 59 weeks I would not be surprised if they already have occupiers for a fair amount of the B8 and they are wanting to secure those occupiers and start on that as soon as possible so as to generate the receipts to build the Stadium.

I'm certain there is no problem - its how Developers work.

Problem is, there doesn't seem to be a clear indication of what is going to happen and what is agreed, which is why our cousins over the river are jumping on it. It is vague at best.
Would be nice to see (or hear if discussed tomorrow) what the schedule is.

Sandalcat has sumed it up nicely. We can also assume WMDC learnt their lesson at Glasshoughton and they will also be
making this agreement tight so the stadium gets built. The last thing WMDC want is another building plot for a stadium with no funding to complete.

Thanks for posting this, was thinking about posting along similar lines but thought due to the club i support the message would be lost to some.

I'm sick of wakefield fans (and a few fev fans, with one leeds fan) talking like they know the ins and outs of cas's new stadium(when they in all likely hood know jack all) , and i'm sick of cas fans talking like they know the ins and outs of wakefields stadium (when they in all likely hood know jack all).

Lets just concentrate on our own projects and wish each other well.

Totally agree but this is what licensing is doing to our great game.

Let me be the first to wish you well in achieving your goal of a new stadium at Glasshoughton. I would love us both to be playing out of new stadia by the next licensing round and continue our rivalry in SL 2015 and beyond.

Although I can only go on what I have read on here, I get the impression that it all went well and I can satisfy myself with the thought that we gave it our best shot, and if it isn't approved, it never was going to be. If so, we would have two years to get Belle Vue into a shape that would satisfy the RFL. Without being critical of other grounds, it would be possible to get it to be as good as Craven Park and Odsal and Wheldon Road. If we can't, then that is it for ever, but I feel optimistic.

Quote ="sixtogo"You have now also reached infamy with a mention on the propaganda board.. Re: Breaking News RE: Newmarket Inquiry Postby townvilletiger » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:10 pm It seems many of us with common sense are on the same wave length about what's going on, and the Wakey fans are still in denial! Posted on RL Fans Tue Dec 20 1.34pm by gowerthegroap A letter was presented at the inquiry this morning by York Court stating that the stadium will be built first. They then went on to say that should we get the nod, building would start mid 2012 and take 59 weeks. The final stipulation following a discussion relating to conditions was an agreement with Leeds Council that should the development be approved, York Court will have to apply for full planning within 4 months of the result of the Public Inquiry. On the grounds of that, I would suggest that the stadium will be the first thing to be built, but IA/TRB/somebody more involved will probably be able to confirm that. No letter was presented at the inquiry yesterday. Here's the letter that was presented on the 8th of December by Yorkcourt (I believe this is what they are referencing). It states Yorkcourt intends to build a stadium, but nowhere does it state that the stadium will be built first or when it will be built! This is letter is only a letter of intent, not a legal obligation and has no standing in law, and the inspector made the same comment. Also, with a development of this size and the costs involved, there has to be a legal obligation in writing (e.g. a 106 agreement), to say building would start mid 2012 and take 59 weeks without this means absolutley nothing: www.keepandshare.com/doc/3372190 ... -392k?da=y I intend to retire by the age of 30, doesn't mean I definitely going to! Yorkcourt have no money, and that's a fact! But the Wakefield fans can keep telling themselves otherwise. I see Armadillo couldn't explain the 106 agreement to them either. [uI'll reiterate what I said on my original post, I am prepared to take any bets, of any amount, that there will never be a stadium at Newmarket. Wildcats fans and Mr Armadillo, put your money where your mouths are![/u Other latest offerings are that YCP will wait for planning to be granted and sell the land on. You are correct in what you say, people should stop getting ahead of themselves, it is not a foregone conclusion. Wait and see if the inquiry goes our way and then timings can be a topic for conversation.'" I may take him up on that, i'm "thinking" of building a stadium myself and im "thinking" of building it at NW. That forum in the main is hardcore anti Wakey and does not represent Cas fans in general.

Quote ="sixtogo"You have now also reached infamy with a mention on the propaganda board.. Re: Breaking News RE: Newmarket Inquiry Postby townvilletiger » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:10 pm It seems many of us with common sense are on the same wave length about what's going on, and the Wakey fans are still in denial! Posted on RL Fans Tue Dec 20 1.34pm by gowerthegroap A letter was presented at the inquiry this morning by York Court stating that the stadium will be built first. They then went on to say that should we get the nod, building would start mid 2012 and take 59 weeks. The final stipulation following a discussion relating to conditions was an agreement with Leeds Council that should the development be approved, York Court will have to apply for full planning within 4 months of the result of the Public Inquiry. On the grounds of that, I would suggest that the stadium will be the first thing to be built, but IA/TRB/somebody more involved will probably be able to confirm that. No letter was presented at the inquiry yesterday. Here's the letter that was presented on the 8th of December by Yorkcourt (I believe this is what they are referencing). It states Yorkcourt intends to build a stadium, but nowhere does it state that the stadium will be built first or when it will be built! This is letter is only a letter of intent, not a legal obligation and has no standing in law, and the inspector made the same comment. Also, with a development of this size and the costs involved, there has to be a legal obligation in writing (e.g. a 106 agreement), to say building would start mid 2012 and take 59 weeks without this means absolutley nothing: www.keepandshare.com/doc/3372190 ... -392k?da=y I intend to retire by the age of 30, doesn't mean I definitely going to! Yorkcourt have no money, and that's a fact! But the Wakefield fans can keep telling themselves otherwise. I see Armadillo couldn't explain the 106 agreement to them either. [uI'll reiterate what I said on my original post, I am prepared to take any bets, of any amount, that there will never be a stadium at Newmarket. Wildcats fans and Mr Armadillo, put your money where your mouths are![/u Other latest offerings are that YCP will wait for planning to be granted and sell the land on. You are correct in what you say, people should stop getting ahead of themselves, it is not a foregone conclusion. Wait and see if the inquiry goes our way and then timings can be a topic for conversation.'" I may take him up on that, i'm "thinking" of building a stadium myself and im "thinking" of building it at NW. That forum in the main is hardcore anti Wakey and does not represent Cas fans in general.

Don't mention anything said on that site, they'll look on here and report back that you are watching them.

Then they'll spend time talking about us watching them while they watch us, exiciting stuff eh.

Cloak and dagger stuff with a few added winks.

Just ban the bell end.

That went well... a great piece of property bought for cash in Docklands off a very nice Eastern European guy. He said he liked cash in brown paper bags best of all and give me a discount for cash, which meant I could by a new massive 3D HD TV for the place from Harrods! I am a winner, my Eastern European friend is a winner and the tax man is oblivious!

Nothing new to see here then I see... same old, same old!

You hope.

I take it you didn't think the post was funny then?

Sick to the back teeth of you as are the rest of us to be honest. Instead of praying for our venture to fail why not try to do something productive with your own or else just stop posting on here trying to come over all nicey nice then going to your other board with your snide comments. Wouldn't surprise me if you were part of the plan that tried and failed to ambush the PI yesterday. Sad b'stard

Nice!

Exactly for me this public inquiry has gone better than expected for us and we are giving this our best shot. Hopefully sense will prevail and Newmarket will get the go ahead. If for some reason it doesn't get past it will not be for the want of trying alot of people can be proud of their efforts.

Ballcocks to being proud of losing! We have shown an overwhelming support for an overwhelming argument for Newmarket to be given a green light. Nothing else will do.

The campaign will then turn towards ensuring delivery of the project.

Still a long way from kick-off in our new stadium, but progress is being made!

I think which ever way it goes, tears will be shed in the Armadillo household! But I remain confident, but not complacent, on which 'type' of tears they will be!

I'm proud of the effort we have put in and I'm confident we will get the green light. As a Trin fan for a number of years I've seen many failed attempts but none of them have gone as far and had the support Newmarket has, this feels like its the one that will finally happen.
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Some disgraceful comments on Casforum, it's a good job that board isn't my total experience of Cas fans.

On the other hand, seems like the PI has gone well and with a bit of luck and a fair wind we should have a new home in 18months!

Most of the occupants of that board are what the phrase 'you can't educate pork' was made for. Thankfully there are more reasonable fans around who aren't as bitter and twisted and understand the the situation BOTH teams are in. Nothing is certain for both teams but also nothing is yet ruled out for either. The picture will be clearer by easter.

It does seem quite strange in comparison to when Saints, Salford and even Hull were having new grounds built. Don't remember any rugby league fan wishing that their projects would fail.

Salford seemed to get some stick, perhaps its more directed to teams who's very futures in the top flight are inextricably linked to a new or improved facilities, meaning the emotions run a little higher.

I don't suppose any of the others were perceived to be directly pitted against their derby rivals in the 'stadium race.' It's clear that the RFL don't want both WTW and Castelford in SL, so the received wisdom is that whichever of us doesn't deliver on the promises made in our franchise applications for 2012-14 will get the boot, never to return.

The stakes are high and as such, there is more than a whiff of desperation in the air.