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| Quote ="vastman"Come on Carter won't have much say - if Smith wants someone out they are gone.'"
Carter will have all the say. The backroom staff all have contracts and all would need payouts and the money isn't there for that. The best would be a a short term addition on top and a sidelining of the current staff but it would have to be someone currently out of work as who who give up a job for a 4 month role here?
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| The lad is the first I have seen who has the physique and pace to make it. I know he made mistakes but that was more to do with him trying too hard.
I am certain he will be very much in demand with the usual suspects monitoring the situation.
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| Quote ="Wakey Til I Die"Carter will have all the say. The backroom staff all have contracts and all would need payouts and the money isn't there for that. The best would be a a short term addition on top and a sidelining of the current staff but it would have to be someone currently out of work as who who give up a job for a 4 month role here?'"
If and it's an if Smith finds say Clawson to be totally incapable of doing the and as such making it impossible for Smith to do his do you really think he'll keep Clawson. Will he nelly he'll do as Smith asks because if he doesn't Smith will not hang around, doesn't need to and has a long history of doing just that.
Finally I doubt very much that Clawson has a contract as such, I suspect he is an employee plain and simple and can be sacked or got rid of as easy as any employee can. However neither of us know that for certain and let's not pretend we do. I'm not condoning it but just seen 4 staff made redundant and two freelancers got rid off and their so called 12 month contracts terminated with immediate effect. All done by the companies HR man who tied all the Union Reps and the odd Solicitor in knots - quite impressive in an evil kind of way,
We'll see.
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| When Clawson signed in september 2011 it was quoted at the time that he had signed a 3 year deal. I'm guessing he must have signed an extension for this season, how long for was never reported. Gilmour was reported as signing a contract until the end if 2016. Whether they can be just terminated or not depends on what is in the contract, but i'd be very surprised to see it happen. Hudson & Dickens both joined at the end of 2012 and there was no length of time mentioned but going by the others i'd hazard a guess they also have contracts. Carter doesn't seem the sacking kind to me, i doubt he will be getting rid of anybody before the end of the season.
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| Think I read on here that Hudson has done a decent job (one of the few at the club to do so) in his role with scouting young players. I'd look to shift Clawson Dickens and Gilmour before him.
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| I have a feeling Smith will be rooting out some bad apples in the dressing room first.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The lad is the first I have seen who has the physique and pace to make it. [uI know he made mistakes[/u but that was more to do with him trying too hard.
I am certain he will be very much in demand with the usual suspects monitoring the situation.'"
He made one mistake and that was the Shenton try, he allowed himself to be caught off balance allowing Shenton to come inside of him brushing him aside instead of making him go on the outside where he has the physique, strength and the speed to have put him where he should have been, into the advertising hoardings, other than that he can't be blamed for his team mates defensive frailties but then again it's easier to blame it on the winger.
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| Johnstone has got the pace and confidence to make a very good winger. Let's just hope he doesn't get muscled up to the point of not being able to run.
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| Can not believe the only good thing going for wakefield is lads like him and some of you wakie fans slag him off I would have him in a flash at Cas he will be a good player in time.
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"Can not believe the only good thing going for wakefield is lads like him and some of you wakie fans slag him off[u I would have him in a flash at Cas he will be a good player in time. [/ud040.gif'"
It's the Wakey thing squire, I would just like to correct you on a little matter though, he is a good player already, but in time he will be a very good player
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| Quote ="chissitt"He made one mistake and that was the Shenton try, he allowed himself to be caught off balance allowing Shenton to come inside of him brushing him aside instead of making him go on the outside where he has the physique, strength and the speed to have put him where he should have been, into the advertising hoardings, other than that he can't be blamed for his team mates defensive frailties but then again it's easier to blame it on the winger.'"
He got completely exposed by the turds outside him moving across with no intensity or desire whatsoever. To attack him out of all the players on that pitch says more about the initial poster than Johnstone
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"Can not believe the only good thing going for wakefield is lads like him and some of you wakie fans slag him off I would have him in a flash at Cas he will be a good player in time.
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Think you'll find that most of the grown ups rate Johnstone very highly and have been calling for his inclusion in the team for some time.
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| Quote ="hard team to follow"Can not believe the only good thing going for wakefield is lads like him and some of you wakie fans slag him off I would have him in a flash at Cas he will be a good player in time.
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Who's slagged him off I have not seen anyone do so
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| Can't believe the OP.
Tom Johnstone has played 5 games this season. Missed 11 tackles. Made 36 Tackles
Tackles:
Wigan - Missed 2 / Made 5
Saints - Missed 1 / Made 9
Kr - Missed 1 / Made 12
Widnes - Missed 1 / Made 3
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The kid has 1 fairly rough game in defence and you start slating him?
It would help if his wasn't stood 30 yards in from the touch line leaving him with numerous defenders to tackle.
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| The OP has a long history of overblown reactions and singling out individual players.
In this instance, Johnstone provided the only point in the match that made me stand up and shout for the team - he never gave up on that try and took it superbly well; a brilliant moment for a young lad who has a bright future - but probably not at Wakefield - Shudds, Leeds et al will have taken notice. He was on the spot for some defensive howlers, but was badly let down by the people around him. As for the Shenton brush-off - that is his trademark and he does it to much better players on a weekly basis, so no shame in that.
Plenty of so-called senior players have plenty to be embarrassed about - Johnstone however, can probably look himself squarely in the eye.
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| It's not rocket science, a lot of wingers look worse in defence because usually they're seen to be scrambling across to try and stop their opposing winger going in at the corner [thereby it looking like they're failing in their attempt but as many have pointed out above, it indicates a failure from the players in the middle to organise and slide effectively thus leaving the winger exposed.
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| Missing 6 tackles in a game must make him one of our better defenders, Miller and Arundel can miss 6 per half and still get selected.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Missing 6 tackles in a game must make him one of our better defenders, Miller and Arundel can miss 6 per half and still get selected.'"
Don't you mean season so far missed tackles
Miller 33.Smith 32. Riley 30. Hall 28. Owen21. Scruton 30. Lauititi 27. Washbrook 22.?
Arundel has only missed 7
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| Quote ="hazzard"Arundel has only missed 7'"
But one of those was a crucial one against a part time window cleaner from Leigh.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"But one of those was a crucial one against a part time window cleaner from Leigh.'"
Thought it was Halifax that the window cleaner played for as Leigh are full time
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| Quote ="hazzard"Thought it was Halifax that the window cleaner played for as Leigh are full time'"
Whose told you that?
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| Quote ="chissitt"Whose told you that?'"
What?
That Leigh are full time?
or the part time window cleaner plays for Halifax
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| Quote ="hazzard"What?
That Leigh are full time?
or the part time window cleaner plays for Halifax'"
Either, or that Collis was at Manchester airport today.
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| I think you'll find it is well documented that Leigh, Bradford and London were full time teams this year. Not that it has helped London much, so far.
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| Ooops. Yes it was Fax.
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