This 100%. It makes you wonder where WTW would be if the people of Wakefield city backed the team and the club.

Firstly the floating fans, if both clubs are wanting to grow their fan base then they need to aim for two supporter types in the first instance. One is the lapsed fan of their clubs so no difference will be made there. The other is attracting new fans in the area to the game. Who do you think they would choose, the successful team or the lower one? Whether it is 10, 100 or a 1000 makes no difference, all clubs need every extra fans they can get as each and every one of them is a potential cash cow.

Secondly sponsorship, that was my point exactly. The local businesses will always support the club but success makes it much more likely that companies from slightly further afield would be interested, thus treading onto the patch of other clubs looking for the same money. If you had a business in, say, normy and had no real link to either team but was looking to grow your brand locally through sponsorship would you choose the club that might finish 12th, has an average crowd just over 4k and has been on live tv about 3 times or the one thats at the top of the table, averaging 7k a game and has had more tv exposure you could shake a stick at?

Thirdly youth development. This has seen a change in policy at Wakey recently and we have apparently got a very good set of 15 to 17 year olds at the club. We have done this by giving the lads chance to both earn and learn. It is not just Wakey born lads either. If Cas can offer the same but with more in the earn column to try attract them in the first place then where do you think they'll sign?

Hopefully those involved in running Cas will see it like you and it won't affect us one bit. Sadly in the real world people like to be involved with success so i've a feeling they'll be making hay whilst the sun shines.

Viva la France!

I say good luck to them not because of who they are but what they stand for. They have finally burst the bubble that states no one other than the big 4/5 can succeed.

To be honest it's the Powell bit I don't get and it's got to be where it all goes wrong if it does

Powell has been coaching since 2001 and has been unexceptional wherever he went even in RU. He had a little cup run with Fev which was great but it happens. Where did he suddenly make this leap to super coach? I grant you that he may have learned as he's gone along but still it seems to good to be true to me.

On a personal note I've met the gut twice. Both times he struck me as astonishingly ordinary. Nothing wrong with that in most jobs but as a coach mmm. On the second occasion I met him he was with Gary Hetherington - I asked them both to join SWAG for Thornes Park. Hetherington did it straight away but Powell turned around and asked Hetherington if he could. Gary said yes but Powell was still unsure and asked me to grab him later. Not willing to let him off as a big name at the time I copped him later where after more procrastination he grudgingly signed the dotted line. Remember this was just a signature of support for the idea, it wasn't even a complaint at the time as everyone was up for it - so what exactly was there to think about - make of that what you will.

For me it certainly didn't show a great leader of men or a visionary for the game. Maybe I'm wrong and got a wrong impression or he's changed and grown, hell we all do. However it left me unimpressed and whenever his name was mentioned as a coach for us it immediately put me against him as a choice.

Maybe I'm wrong, in fact on current form I'm way off but next year will be the key for me - some key players leaving Cas with Clark an almost irreplaceable - we'll see.

I think they’d be better off losing today.

Finishing fourth gives them a game at St’s, who seem to be running out of troops.

Finish top & they would host Huddersfield who, whilst not the finished article, look a tougher prospect.

But hey, they may just want to finish top, history and all that, but since it went to top six, followed by top eight, the relevance was lost in relation to getting to the Final.

Also the LLS looks like a piece of tat. Why can’t they have something like the NRL one?

You jinxed us

The distinct lack of hubcaps in Cas continues then.

It’s not over yet.

Don’t get me wrong, St’s are a good side as they showed last night, but they’re down on numbers & will probably have Walmsley out for next week too.

Even if you don’t get the result, there’s still the second bite of the cherry, maybe against Leeds (not sure?) down the Lane – a chance of retribution.

However, Cas looked a tired side tonight, obviously some of it was down to playing down there, but maybe a game too far this season.

Loved every point put passed our 6 fingered neighbours





got to improve massively in the playoffs or it could be embarassing.....hopefully.

Who are you playing next week?

What a come back



same as you are the week after

Cas are guaranteed at least two further games.

That would mean they win and have a week off, hope that doesn't happen!

How does the song go, sweet Catolan

Hope it's better than that useless sod at Cas who sang it.

You could describe Alf Ramsey as astonishingly ordinary. In fact you could describe most of this years super league coaches as astonishingly ordinary. Why would you actually remember an occasion when you met some one if they were astonishingly ordinary, or are you just making it up to justify your post. Some of the greatest RL coaches ever have been astonishingly ordinary and long may it continue, its what sets this great game apart from lesser sports. Cas were astonishingly ordinary tonight.

First chuckle of the day, nice one Bazzo

Which he is, and that's probably the reason the team and fans have got behind him.

He used to live next door to my aunty and uncle in the early 90s, at that time he would have been a GB international. In the Summer holidays I used to stay at theirs for a week with my cousin. On one unfortunate occasion I stupidly left my BMX at the bottom of the drive where it was unsighted and Daryl reversed over the front wheel with his car! He came running to my cousins door and was devastated despite me assuring him it was totally my own fault and I knew someone who could fix it. He offered to pay for the repair, even offered to buy me a new bike if I couldn't get it fixed. The next time I saw him after the event he went out of his way to ask me if I'd got the bike sorted.

Crikey, this is deep stuff. #tearjerker

I wasn't going to adress this on here but I felt like better here than on the Facebook page.i don't really use Facebook, I have around 6 friends (lol) but I keep an eye on what all the young lads are saying on what the call the" north standers" a young lad posted something similar to the op on the Facebook page and was shocked that there was not one person on there that showed any sort of remorse with there replies. And it seems it's ended up with the lad removing himself from the page as he was forced by our own fans. The term "inbred" is very commonly used on that page, a joke is a joke and I get that and maybe I'm a bit old school but that post showed me a lot of things but mainly the fact that Rugby seems to be turning into the same culture as football with fans insulting each other, and the sense of all togetherness is no longer here anymore in the sport. How can we call this a family game anymore ? "whats it like to **** your mum" was a common chant on Sunday by some of our fans, the bloke next to me was covering his two sons ears and was saying he will think twice about bringing them next time, I told him he's better of away from the north stand at home games as chant like that seem very common.like I say it's probably me just been old fashioned, and waffling on, it's going to happen anyway.

Ah, Facebook. Where the intelligence levels are similar to those of a fortnight old cauliflower. I got shut of that social networking disease a while back. It was ok in the early days as a way of keeping in touch but the last few years have seen it become a breeding ground for people with very little between the ears. When I read a thread with multiple 'fans' wishing for players to have career ending injuries I knew we were dealing with a totally different beast.

I do have Facebook but much prefer twitter

Amen to that. The thinking man's social networking. 140 characters is a great damage limiter!

I didn't say it was wrong so off the horse please. I said he didn't strike me as a leader of men, I can only say it as I saw it at the time - which explains why I remain slightly unconvinced now, not that Powell cares in the least.

As for great RL coaches being ordinary - sorry but no. Of the ones I've met and I can't claim to be friends with any none were as ordinary as Powell - who incidentally I remember because he was so "ordinary" why wouldn't I? I don't mix with these people every day.

So, of those I've met…

Kear was educated and charismatic.

Mal Reilly was quite and polite but still strangely menacing.

Peter Fox was a force of nature and a legend in his own mind.

Graham Murray, an affable Aussie who made you like him.

Powell, just none of the above.

As for Ramsey how the heck do you make that out, the man was a harsh disciplinarian and ruthless team selector. And that came across in his eccentric almost Edwardian manner that most certainly wasn't the norm even in 1966, he was an oddball.

Ok, I think this thread has had the chance to make a point. I'll end it here.