Show me some evidence that many of the people who object to compulsory vaccination are calling for mask wearing to be compulsory. I think you’ve made that up.
Sandcat’s right - there should be some loosening of restrictions but wearing a mask in shops and on public transport is no big deal and should stay mandatory for the time being. People can choose to go in a crowded pub, theatre or nightclub but many don’t have the choice when it comes to shopping and transport.

You can’t listen to the news without hearing politicians, Trade union, human rights civil rights leaders of BAME communities all objecting to compulsory vaccines, no sooner had Borris finished his press conference last night, we had Sir Keir Starmer, denouncing personal choice for masks soon followed by the rest of the none compulsory vacation supporters. Just let people make their own decisions, we’ve had nearly 18 months of restrictions, yes the Covid cases are rising, but thankfully the death rate is not. It won’t be long before herd immunity is achieved.

So you have no evidence to back up your ludicrous assertion.
“Just let people make their own decisions”. The problem is that decisions you make may not affect you but might effect someone else. You don’t let people make their own decisions about the speed they drive so why make keeping people safe from Covid infection a personal choice?

The mandatory wearing of masks just makes sense, it does not impact on an individual’s freedoms but protects other from contacting Covid. We currently have over 28,000 daily new cases with a possibility of this increasing to 100,000 after the 19th. The current variation at that level will increase hospitalisations and deaths but probably whatever these are it will be acceptable for the freedom of not wearing a mask.
The unknown is that as the number of cases increases so does the risk of a new variation, this may not be controlled by current vaccinations.
The question is would you rather wear a mask and reduce the numbers and the possibility of creating a new variation or take Boris’s gamble and throw them away. He appears to have forgone data for dates.

Back to full capacity. eh?? Mmmmm! I wonder how many times during the rest of the season clubs will actually experience this. Sad to say I can't see the crowds at BV being much higher than what we've seen so far. I've spoken to previous seasoned fans who have shown apathy as to whether they will be coming back or not.

"normal" face masks do not prevent you from being at risk. they are useful for about 15 minutes.
The only masks to protect you would be an FFP3 or FFP2 mask.
The link between infection, hospitalisation and death has been broken by vaccines - slow increase in hospitalisation in relation to higher infections - flat line of deaths in relation to hospitalisations.
This then in turn will be broken by herd immunity.
This is the time to get back to normal. No point in waiting till Sept/Oct as that is the beginning of the flu season (remember flu - it disappeared of the face of the earth from Sept 2020-March 2021)
If people want to wear a mask, that's OK with me - but I wont be wearing one.

The link between infections, hospitalisations and deaths has not been broken and that is a fact. The problem however is the more cases the more chances of a new variation.

I think you'll find normal masks do work, imagine you having covid try spitting wearing a mask you'll find it won't get further than your lips, it's not all about breathing germs in the idea is to restrict passing germs on when you don't know you have it.
I have respect for others when it's required in shops but I do relax in open areas

I didnt say that they didn't "work." I said they were only beneficial for a short time.
Also, you cant spit through your nose - unless I've missed something - but yet there are numerous people wearing them that don't cover their nose with their mask on making them just as useless as not wearing one - even if they do only work for a limited time.
And those that have been wearing a mask have contracted covid - so that point of yours falls down big time.

Really?
I think the data clearly shows it has.

not being cocky was bagging us !
the state of origin was moved to QLD so it could have crowds
people here are not getting vaccinated here thats the problem

The government’s scientific advisors say weakened but not broken unless you know better.

Looking forward to the restrictions being removed and a sense of normality returning. If people choose to keep wearing a mask, fine with me, I will be glad to ditch mine. If we don't open up fully now with the vulnerable vaccinated we never will. Economic recovery is intertwined with health recovery as the more deprived in society have been the most affected by the restrictions. Time to let the younger generations get back to normal life too as their mental health must be awful after 18 months of disrupted education and social life.

Now your just being stupid

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The government’s scientific advisors say weakened but not broken unless you know better.'" Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss

Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The government’s scientific advisors say weakened but not broken unless you know better.'" Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss

no more stupid than you saying that "normal" masks are effective.

Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss'" That's paper talk, Scientists dealing with the virus have said it as been weakened .on all things I have watch on the T V .The 2 Scientists who were on with the P M on Monday said they would wear mask in certain circumstances .So they are all wrong and the paper is right

Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss'" That's paper talk, Scientists dealing with the virus have said it as been weakened .on all things I have watch on the T V .The 2 Scientists who were on with the P M on Monday said they would wear mask in certain circumstances .So they are all wrong and the paper is right

No, its the talk of an NHS Chief Exec. Slightly different.

Fair point but papers change the odd word in a quotefor better Headlines. Stopped buying them years ago,just full of to many lies

To be fair, the Boris announcement said exactly what Scarlett said, in that the link was weakened not broken

The article title says broken, but the quote from the NHS guy does not say that.

Its semantics but its not correct to say Scarlett is wrong in this case because of that article. It does not prove what you are saying.

That’s ruined any credibility for honesty comparing me to something our pathological liar of a PM would say. I took my stance from comments from SAGE rather than Johnson who I believe has changed his definition already from Monday to Wednesday to better suit his stance.

Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss'" That quote is a month old. Try this from yesterday:- “Experts break ranks in PM's major ending Lockdown announcement 'Link is NOT broken!' PATRICK VALLANCE has warned that the link between coronavirus cases and deaths is "not broken" but only weakened from the vaccines.”

Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Really? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... r-nhs-boss'" That quote is a month old. Try this from yesterday:- “Experts break ranks in PM's major ending Lockdown announcement 'Link is NOT broken!' PATRICK VALLANCE has warned that the link between coronavirus cases and deaths is "not broken" but only weakened from the vaccines.”

I didn't actually mean Boris said it, I meant it was said at his briefing by Chris Whitty but never mind.
I shouldn't have said anything. My bad.

No I am glad of your support but it was your indication that it was our PM who said it in his announcement and I didn’t want any confusion or for anyone to actually believe he tells the truth.

Working in a school environment the biggest news ATM for me is that at present when one child gets a positive result the whole class has to go home for 10 days even though the rest don’t test positive, shortly the only person to go home is the child sat at the side of them, which will be a godsend for parents ,education and schools alike ,although the kids probably won’t like it . We have to draw the line in the sand and live with this virus like flu with maybe a booster jab every year to up our immunity levels just like the flu jab, and many other ailments that affect humans ,now that the majority of the English vulnerable population has the vaccine the symptoms for most will not be life threatening and will mean a few days at home kicking our heels . Personally I don’t see hospitals been inundated with masses of the population ,we’ve got to approach this new era with the old British stiff upper lip and got on with it ,not gung-ho but with precautions and wear masks where and when it’s sensible for the user to do so .Supermarkets and the like have always been a place teaming with snotty kids and adults spreading their colds n germs ,so wear a mask ,I will even though for the first 10 mins I’m looking through foggy glasses ,but this is a small price to pay in the bigger picture . We as a country have come a long way since those ludicrous queues and shelf stripping of the early pandemic ,we need to keep moving forwards with caution and there is nothing to say don’t take extra precautions if personally required to keep you and your loved ones safe ,but keep moving forwards ,it’s the only way to get our lives back .