Something has to give and quickly, we are dire and not scoring a single point in 3 games is humiliating.

Poching ultimately had better players to work with, as did Chester, and for large parts of the last 5 years we were poor. This squad isn't a patch on last seasons so it's no wonder we are struggling. We have no game breakers (other than Jowitt, Murphy and Tanginoa). The rest are just work horses at best. Pitts and Ashurts are the least dynamic back rowers in the competition. Lino only seems to spark when there is about 10 minutes left and then its often headless chicken time. Gaskell may as well not bother for all the impact he has on a game. Not seen enough of Smith in the halves to fully comment but there is a reason why he was in the championship and not SL.

Can't wait can you to stick the boot in....
Yes he has in a different coaching role FFS.

And now he's head coach and completely failing at it.

Where does all these theories about crap team and poor coach work when you see one of the top coaches in our game and a club bristling with big name signing go down by 60 at Salford , what’s hulls problem or excuse ? . Isn’t working for them throwing the money about is it .Puts our quandary in perspective really

You are a complete bell.
He's had four games at it FFS....
If you're looking at it with the narrow minded attitude you take to all things, then what's Wellen's excuse with [iall [/ihis resources?

He's lost all 4 of those games, with 3 of them being nillings. He's simply not up to the job - never was - and shouldn't have been given the position.
The real crux of it is when you listen to his post match interviews - he already sound like the last days of Chester where he couldn't identify the problem, let alone come up with a solution to fix it.

Clearly targeted lyne and kershaw wing in second half with much joy , first a bomb knocked back into welcoming arms and ran round a static lyne to get near the posts , then two simple quick moves caught them both off guard again and pawing fresh air to go in the corner , 16 points down in the blink of an eye.

We don’t know what leeway he was given with signings - he might have been told he couldn’t have what he wanted for all we know
At the end of the day you can’t coach something that’s not there!

The thing is, at least 2 players have gone public saying all was not well under Poching, and how happy they were with Applegarth, and pre-season training was spot on etc, etc. There's no hiding place now is there? We're not a team of kids, are we really that low on quality and experience that we can go 3 games without scoring?!!

Yes !! I believe we are that low on quality in the backs especially since the injuries to Jowitt and Murphy and Hall being dropped . Lino is not the player we hoped for and looks decidedly worse since Miller left . The forwards are getting us up the field but there is no flair, speed,creativity to get over the line ,kicking game is hopeless too.

No, I agree.
I think everyone involved needs to take a long look at themselves before what support we have dwindles further.
Fans are used to the relentless relegation fights but this season so far is already breaking records! People will vote with their feet they won’t pay hard earned money to watch a team getting hammered every week.

If he wasn't given the finances or opportunities needed to build the squad he wanted, he should have never taken the job. He's been involved with coaching at the club for quite some time, so we can only assume that he was both happy with the squad, and happy with the recruitment and direction.

This is all on a coach who's natural ability and level aren't as a head coach in a super league club

Or maybe he just thought "Well it's not brilliant, but I am confident in my own ability to make the most of what I've got and can keep us in SuperLeague. It's my hometown club and I've been here a while now, have the respect of the players and the board, otherwise they wouldn't have offered me the job, and am happy to give it a go" ??
Just a thought

Nah. This guy only appears when we are poop.

However, I can't for the life in me see how replacing Miller by equal or better was not a priority in the close season, he was our captain, organiser and more importantly a seasoned half back.

Whoever thought Gaskill was the answer ???????

You can assume it. The rest of us will live in the real world.

Looks like as a city we need to take up a new sport for the men and women, both nilled this weekend with the women losing 108-0.

Can only get better, fingers crossed.

When it comes to all things Trinity you have been known to leave reality behind.

Are you saying you agree with him that Mash was happy with the squad he took over?
And that he shouldn't have taken it if he wasn't?

I'm OK leaving your reality.
Mine may be rainbow coloured and covered in unicorns but yours is just dark, with a hole in the roof.

Well that’s the big question.
Gaskell apart I thought we would be ok players haven’t lived up to expectations.

Indeed. Clearly they didn't expect Gaskill to be quite like this but who knows how limited we were with options.

Ultimately we need to improve service from ptb, and improve speed at halfback.
The rest will all improve with those two things.

The effort is there.
The forwards are making ground and defending well.
We are just not doing anything with the ball and handing it over to let them have another go.

Can't remember who said it but training from now on should be just running drills to get from ptb to attacking option, including kicks and runners.
Salford may not be a complete swing in fortune but we've got to make them at least think we have some kind of danger with ball in hand.

Possibly whatever money was available for a decent stand off was spent on an ageing second rower playing prop…

I have a view on why he was probably selected but it is nothing more than what I think. With regards your world, I think it is safe to say with regards the club you are an half glass full despite what is obvious for all to see.
If I live in a dark place it is one created by the club over recent seasons. I am guessing and that is all, that your lack of recent posts indicates even your positivity is taking a bashing.
The club is just not currently giving anything playing wise for you to take a positive from.

I think you may be very near the truth there. I would also add we could have spent quite a bit on bringing Tafua over . Just my opinion, but another waste of money. Would have been better keeping Evans.

Then there is Hood, I don't rate him at all, he would not get anywhere near another SL team. However I know some other people think differently, but unless we were deliberately planning to enter championship right from the start of this year, I really don't understand the logic of extending his contract so early in the season, particularly at his age and with his injury record.