This comes up every year.
It's not fitness it's execution.
If you keep dropping the ball and giving soft ball on 6th tackle you have more work to do.

Hi pop tart, in reply to you i think that's why we need to break the cycle of what s happened every year, the latter two teams i spoke of didn't keep dropping the ball etc, their minds set improved & fitness which increased their positivity which increased their execution !
Even Chester says he needs to look at things especially on 5 day turn arounds, do the top four teams do what you have said - as consistent as us ?
Just an opinion,best regards.

Stop dicking around with the team.
Matty Smith didn't get a look in once Richardson was introduced to the Saints team.
Pity we didn't use this simple philosophy of, you play well, you keep your spot.

How dare anyone on here question chester and his coaching team....in my opinion now we have signed arona i dont see where we are gonna greatly improve the team/squad thats not a dig at arona hes great but where everyone elae is improving we wont be.we will be signing george king and other than hirst he wont improve things.one area we can improve is coaching like hudds have.ill get shot and accused for this but the current coaching staff aint good enough.look at hudds 17 players and look at wakeys pound for pound i honestly think we where better/stronger but there simply better coached

But that's what I'm saying.
The top teams aren't fitter they are better.

The 5 day turn around thing from Chester i assume is about the type of training you do leading up to the game......i should think mental peparation too.

But I haven't seen you tell us what Chester isn't doing right, you just say he is rubbish.

Fortunately Shudds have the luxury of being able to chop and change with ease.
With the signing of Arona, there's no need for King.
Kopczak would be a great addition to our forwards and can't see where else we need to improve position wise.

For me kopczak would be massive signing and would improve our front row which i belive is at times weak id also we need a 6 or 7 to put pressure on miller and hampshire

We need to sign Hampshire up for next season, so if this doesn't happen, then yes, this will be a position we need to strengthen but if Hampshire does re sign, the back up option is going to be someone of the calibre of Jordan Lilley, because anyone higher profile, isn't going to play second fiddle.

Hampshire will be a wakey player next year and its up to him ots his first time at a sl club he gonna be first choice hb but with finn departure we will need back.personnoly dont like lilly but this is my worry are we gonna improve squad wise

Cant motivate players...plays his favs for sake of it
..plays players out of postion cos he thinks its best. (Ok with injuries but we not had them)..reluctent to give youth a chance...signs players but wont play them then gets rid.(baldwinson)....laughs in aftermatch interviews after a loss

I used Lilley as an example, HKR snapped up Atkin from Swinton, so them gems in the lower leagues are there and would be a good fit for us.

Really atkin his quality i thought he come up through ranks ..so yeah its up to our coaching team/scouts to find them

I'm just wondering whether this group have reached their 'level.' It is seemingly a fine line between finishing in the bottom 4, and maybe not actually 4th, but this season 5th or 6th. We have had 3 good seasons, and when you consider 3 years ago where we were, on our budget, we have done really well. Mr. Bojo gets a lot of stick on here, and mostly quite rightly, but he was probably right when he said last season was a missed opportunity to achieve something really special, just a win or 2 away from potential glory, will we come that close again in the next few seasons?? That's kind of why I started this topic, are these players mentally tough enough to win important, close games, or do the coaching staff take some responsibility? because there just seems to be a pattern developing re. close results, and certain levels of performance against certain opposition, which has to change if we want to make it to the next level.

So reading between the lines it seems like this has got to be the coaching team that is causing this problem but only a couple of posters dare say it when you play like we did against Wigan & Saints & then the week after you haven't got a clue it can't be the players they come out for the first half & they play like the don't know each other that surely has to be something in training they surely can't be talking to each other before in the dressing room & saying "Right what are we doing this week" "Err don't know what you think" "I don't know don't ask me" but that's what it looks like so somebody must be at fault

Agree about Kopczak, he would be an excellent signing.
We do need some cover in the halves, although Randall / Wood can cover those positions and to persuade a decent half to come to Wakey to only play if/when Miller or Hampshire need a break will be almost impossible. We would end up with another MCB situation.
The ideal would be to have one of our academy halves who was good enough to cover the odd few games.

Well it is a bit alarming for me, going back to Saints at home, a great performance, then terrible at Salford, just a poor follow up, same with Hull at home then Friday. Also the challenge cup 'surrender.' Without starting another topic, I can't actually make my mind up whether i'm pleased with this season so far or disappointed?!? So over to everyone else, so far, pleased or disappointed???

I think that's a fair comment
My opinion on that is in keeping the team together long term we will get that extra 1% or so improvement out of them to take the next step

I believe what we all want will come
We have a great mix of youth and experience that will grow together

The only thing missing is some one to lead us round the park and a kicking game

More good things are on the horizon for us I am sure

Think it was down to the coach we did not make top 5 .Changing the team all year .Hirst no way near a S L player . In all matches against Hudds we have looked by far the fittest team but for some reason seem to get penalise more against them.Do not there's a lot wrong with fitness.

Defence Defence Defence!! We are great with ball in hand but concede far too many tries especially out wide. The top 4 sides rarely concede more than 4, we've slipped back in the second half of the season to conceding 6 or 7 a game again after being really on the mettle in the earlier part of the season. If we wanna step up to the next level like we almost did last season then we have to improve defensively, my take on it anyway.

Don’t think it’s a money thing myself as they have proven they can compete with the big teams on numerous occasions,then succumb to teams we should brush aside.you only have to look at Leeds for this theory.
It’s got to be their mental state or focus that gets the team up and down for games that is erratic to say the least .
Not another team in super league blows a team out of the water one week with champagne rugby then puts a performance in like at hudds .
I haven’t a clue what goes into coaching a team and I may be way of the mark but from where I sit the only thing that’s holds them back is mental toughness and a belief in them self’s .
How this is fixed I don’t know and it’s just my opinion.

this current squad will not achieve again what they almost did last year...

we need a new direction in attack - I even think Miller could do more or be replaced .

agree with Hirst surely we look somewhere else next year

We are not that far away yes we could do with a new face in the front row but the weak link for 3 seasons has being halfback Miller far too inconsistent and Finn simply not good enough at SL level Hampshire is worth another year
We also have two other ageing players who spend more time in the treatment room than on the field
If MCB is going I would like to see the 2 above offloaded and the combined salary of the 4 put to bringing in 1 class scrum half in

I would also hope that the up and coming super 8 games are used to give some of the younger squad players a game or 2 Crowther etc

Agree with some posters we need to clear some of the decks like Hirst and MCB as taking up squad spots and either not getting a game or not playing to level required. Would like to think these could be replaced with the likes of kopczak and other quality players to fill the spaces. Perhaps then when we need to rotate this makes have strength in depth