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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Check your Pm.'"
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| Agree 100%.
Now more than ever do we need to look forward.
If last night showed anything its that there is a lot of people who care about Wakefield Trinity. We will end up with the club we deserve. The more positive support the more sustainable the future.
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| Agar getting a 3 year deal in my opinion is not a reason to be positive, in fact its quite the opposite.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Agar getting a 3 year deal in my opinion is not a reason to be positive, in fact its quite the opposite.'"
But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine is the opposite, I think Richard Agar will turn this club around but only time will tell whose right.
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| After all the s**t that you all as Wakefield Trinity fans have been through with one thing or another I hope that finally you don't have to go through any of it again as you would all would be forgiven for thinking that someone/something somewhere has had it out for you over the last few years and wanted you not to exist anymore.
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| 2 reasons to be positive.
We still have a club to support in SL next season
If we turn the clock back a few years when we looked like losing our spot in SL,
we would have jumped at the chance to play in SL, so lets get in there next season and cause a few upsets.
Newmarket is getting closer by the week and hopefully before too long, we can watch the Mighty Trin playing
in a modern stadium with excellent facilities.
We just need the "supporters" to support the club !
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| Quote ="Sandal Cat"But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine is the opposite, I think Richard Agar will turn this club around but only time will tell whose right.'"
But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine remains the opposite and I think Richard Agar will continue to fail as a coach resulting in our relegation from Super League. Only time will tell who is right.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine remains the opposite and I think Richard Agar will continue to fail as a coach resulting in our relegation from Super League. Only time will tell who is right.'"
I don't want to make excuses for RA but if you were at the presentation yesterday evening, you will know that he had offers from elsewhere but chose to stay at Wakefield and battle with a shoestring budget to keep us in Superleague.
Now, it's fair to say I was one of those many people who wasn't excited by his initial appointment but, when you hear the players talk about him and when you look at the commitment he has made to the club, I think the guy should be given some support.
It's common knowledge that we have the lowest player spend in SL and therefore it figures that we should finish bottom of the league but, we finished 11th (1 point off 9th).
Next season will be tough but, it will be a lot tougher if we all keep on knocking the coach and the players.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I don't want to make excuses for RA but if you were at the presentation yesterday evening, you will know that he had offers from elsewhere but chose to stay at Wakefield and battle with a shoestring budget to keep us in Superleague.
Now, it's fair to say I was one of those many people who wasn't excited by his initial appointment but, when you hear the players talk about him and when you look at the commitment he has made to the club, I think the guy should be given some support.
It's common knowledge that we have the lowest player spend in SL and therefore it figures that we should finish bottom of the league but, we finished 11th (1 point off 9th).
Next season will be tough but, it will be a lot tougher if we all keep on knocking the coach and the players.'"
Disagree with your conclusion that the lowest spend equates to finishing bottom. John Kear and Paul Broadbent would have had these players in the top six without a doubt, they did it before and would indeed do it again if given the opportunity. Agars record is truly awful. Still that said I do not want to pour cold water over the optimistic nature of this original threa, its just that for all the good that may be happening I personally think that this move to give Agar 3 year is truly truly disasterous.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine remains the opposite and I think Richard Agar will continue to fail as a coach resulting in our relegation from Super League. Only time will tell who is right.'"
Hi guys, first post. Sadly it is a negative one because I agree with Worksopwildcat. Agar is not the man for the job, never has been and if we cast our minds back to his appointment he wasn't the supporters choice. If Wakefield want to move on then a new chairman should be just the begining
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| Quote ="milkybarkid"Hi guys, first post. Sadly it is a negative one because I agree with Worksopwildcat. Agar is not the man for the job, never has been and if we cast our minds back to his appointment he wasn't the supporters choice. If Wakefield want to move on then a new chairman should be just the begining'"
Who do you think would want to come ant coach here at the moment, with the cash constraints that would be placed upon them and the bare bones of a squad that we have ?
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| Yep its not the time for knocking that's for sure. Next season will be a long hard slog and we need to stick together more than ever before.
I think Agar seems a honest sort of fellow and I wish him all the best. People will never always agree with how a coach operates and team selection, but in general I think hes done ok with the money available. The players all seem to like and respect agar and that's a big bonus, they I think will always put the effort in.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Who do you think would want to come ant coach here at the moment, with the cash constraints that would be placed upon them and the bare bones of a squad that we have ?'"
Good question and good point. Sadly we are a club in decline and there is no escaping that fact. I am a lifelong supporter and have up until now have always remained positive about "next season". Even under Kear next season was just the same as the previous season. We as supporters have tried time and again to assist the club in its whole matter of issues over the recent years and our voice has never been heard. I'm certainly not saying its time to give up but what i am saying is we are in decline and need to accept that.
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| Quote ="milkybarkid"Hi guys, first post. Sadly it is a negative one because I agree with Worksopwildcat. Agar is not the man for the job, never has been and if we cast our minds back to his appointment he wasn't the supporters choice. If Wakefield want to move on then a new chairman should be just the begining'"
I'm not actually sure who the supporters choice was. Poching perhaps? All I remember the alternative names that were bandied about in the press were Goulding and Schofield, which I still think were leaked to make Agar's appointment more palatable.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"Disagree with your conclusion that the lowest spend equates to finishing bottom. John Kear and Paul Broadbent would have had these players in the top six without a doubt, they did it before and would indeed do it again if given the opportunity. Agars record is truly awful. Still that said I do not want to pour cold water over the optimistic nature of this original threa, its just that for all the good that may be happening I personally think that this move to give Agar 3 year is truly truly disasterous.'"
Again, nothing more than an opinion. I would say no they wouldn't. We might have won a few games that were tight but we'd also have got spanked a few times if my memory serves me correctly.
I personally think Agar has done OK with the resources he has had, not GREAT, but not AWFUL either. I am however happy to bow down to people with a much better knowledge of the game than me and most of them say he is a very good young coach.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I'm not actually sure who the supporters choice was. Poching perhaps? All I remember the alternative names that were bandied about in the press were Goulding and Schofield, which I still think were leaked to make Agar's appointment more palatable.'"
From what I remember we were bigging up Peter Gentle (who refused to even speak to us) who has IMO not broken any pots at Hull given they have masses more resources than us.
The other name that I remember some fans wanting was Ian Millward, another who proved less than succesful in the appointment he got.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"But that's your opinion and you are certainly entitled to it. Mine remains the opposite and I think [uRichard Agar will continue to fail as a coach[/u resulting in our relegation from Super League. Only time will tell who is right.'"
Enlighten me as to how he has failed since being at Wakefield
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| Doesn't matter if you are highly qualified you can still be bang average in your job. Are you a natural at talking to your players. Agar lucky to get 3 years. 10th place with the best team in years ????
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| Quote ="milkybarkid"Hi guys, first post. Sadly it is a negative one because I agree with Worksopwildcat. Agar is not the man for the job, never has been and if we cast our minds back to his appointment he wasn't the supporters choice. If Wakefield want to move on then a new chairman should be just the begining'"
Maybe not according to you & those who listen to and follow some HullFC fans, but OUR players like and respect him. I know whose judgement I would prefer to trust.
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| Eclair. Not seen you on here in a while. Totally agree with you.
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| I'm a little surprised at the length of contract Agar has got if 3 years is true. We made similar contract mistakes with some players like Mellars etc.
He's done ok but think that with the squad we had we should have been around 8th and have under achieved. The players themselves acknowledge this. Next year will be even more difficult for the team and Agar so 3 years seems disproportionate.
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| 1 Year to takes us down!
2 Years to try to get us back up!!
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| Positives
We are sorting our finances before its too late
We are open and actively seeking new investment
We are a decent sized City with more potential than many RL clubs
We are close to getting our new stadium
A few years time we will be in a better position than alot of other clubs
TRINITY FOREVER
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| Quote ="Topcat13"1 Year to takes us down!
2 Years to try to get us back up!!
=3 Years???'"
MC implied that, if the worst happens and we're relegated next year, RA would have offers to coach in SL and wouldn't be coaching us.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4cas"Doesn't matter if you are highly qualified you can still be bang average in your job. Are you a natural at talking to your players. Agar lucky to get 3 years. 10th place with the best team in years ????
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I'm damn sure I'd rather have Agar talking to the players than you.
Still crying cos Mr Superstar has gone to Cas???
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