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| Quote ="Willzay"Absolutely disgusting if true. How anyone stick up for him.'"
FFS. Its almost certainly true and nobody on here knows anything! But don't let that stop you jumping to conclusions
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| Quote ="Willzay"Absolutely disgusting if true. How anyone stick up for him.'"
FFS. Its almost certainly not true and nobody on here knows anything! But don't let that stop you jumping to conclusions
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| Quote ="Dunkirk Spirit"Reading this has made me feel sick. I’ve always stood by MC and JM, built this is true regarding the new stand, then I feel that I’ve been made a fool of. I’ve recently bought into the share scheme believing I was helping to finance the future of the club, this apparently underhanded business of the new stand is bordering on skulduggery, and if it turns out to be true, then I really will be re considering my loyalty to this club/management. I’m paying into the commit 6, and at this moment I’m convinced I should end my payments. Any money I pay regarding Trinity, I want it to go to Trinity, not some faceless Stadium Management set up. If the current management does not come clean on this issue in the very near future, then I will not be investing any more monies into the club, Gutted'"
Take no notice of the ball cocks talked by quite a few. We don't know if this is happening at all. It's idle speculation and pretty horrible stuff. Wait till you know the facts before you draw conclusions would be my advice
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sooner the pair of them leave the better, we have a much better future without them.
Oh before I forget. This £10M + asset has not been provided by those two. Each and everyone one of us that pay our local taxes to WMDC along with all other contributors in the LA ,have contributed to deliver that.
Anyhow, bye bye MC and JM , bring on the new chapter'"
Ridiculous
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sooner the pair of them leave the better, we have a much better future without them.
Oh before I forget. This £10M + asset has not been provided by those two. Each and everyone one of us that pay our local taxes to WMDC along with all other contributors in the LA ,have contributed to deliver that.
Anyhow, bye bye MC and JM , bring on the new chapter'"
That's actually quite embarrassing.
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| Quote ="charlie63wildcat"Take no notice of the ball cocks talked by quite a few. We don't know if this is happening at all. It's idle speculation and pretty horrible stuff. Wait till you know the facts before you draw conclusions would be my advice'"
Yes I obviously jumped the gun on that one. I had my ear bent a little today by someone connected to the club, they assured me most of what I had read was inaccurate and some news was due. Hopefully, we can all look more positively for the eventual outcome.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sooner the pair of them leave the better, we have a much better future without them.
Oh before I forget. This £10M + asset has not been provided by those two. Each and everyone one of us that pay our local taxes to WMDC along with all other contributors in the LA ,have contributed to deliver that.
Anyhow, bye bye MC and JM , bring on the new chapter'"
Couldn't agree more on this statement..
I do fully understand what he did in 2013. Was things financially, though, how he summarised it several times over, in 2013, I very much doubt it. The figures changed significantly over a short period of time.
His manner hasn't endeared him to a lot of fans during his tenure, not just in recent times.
This is not an attack, this is a viewpoint.
I've said before on this board, no person is bigger than the club, and that included chairmen and CEO's
Thank you for saving us, but please move on now, and let us turn to the next chapter.
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| I don’t think every decision MC has made has been beneficial to the club but neither do I think he’s the total bad guy he’s being made out to be. I note that JM has also been dragged into things from hero to zero in record time.
I think those making currently unfounded allegations should keep their gobs shut until the real facts come out.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"I don’t think every decision MC has made has been beneficial to the club but neither do I think he’s the total bad guy he’s being made out to be. I note that JM has also been dragged into things from hero to zero in record time.
I think those making currently unfounded allegations should keep their gobs shut until the real facts come out.'"
You’re right about Minards. I wondered what he’s done to be dragged into it.
How long before the potential new owners get I wonder.
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| Quote ="Eastern Wildcat"Couldn't agree more on this statement..
I do fully understand what he did in 2013. Was things financially, though, how he summarised it several times over, in 2013, I very much doubt it. The figures changed significantly over a short period of time.
His manner hasn't endeared him to a lot of fans during his tenure, not just in recent times.
This is not an attack, this is a viewpoint.
I've said before on this board, no person is bigger than the club, and that included chairmen and CEO's
Thank you for saving us, but please move on now, and let us turn to the next chapter.'"
But this is the crux of it for me.
Carter has a manner that some don't like.
Personally I don't want a glad hander. I want someone who can make tough decisions and take the hit if they go wrong even if those affected don't like it.
He's had to be unpopular to get things done and I'm glad he did. Clearly some have a little vendetta going and waited for the day when the team wasn't doing well to pile on.
Many posting so gleefully now were nowhere to be seen when it was going OK. Its just the way some people are.
Minards on the other hand is someone we shouldn't lose from the club. If I was the new guy, I'd keep some of the people who work at the club at least through transition.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"I don't tell lies or spread lies, I've done my bit to save our club, you can thank me and buy me a drink.if you like. My conscience is clear and my head is held high. Go find the truth PT you might not like it. Not long now till he goes then you can stop grovelling'"
Now i'm no particular fan of Carter & co at all and will be glad to see the back of them but they have done some good things along the way. I am interested though, exactly what have you done to save the club?
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sooner the pair of them leave the better, we have a much better future without them.
Oh before I forget. This £10M + asset has not been provided by those two. Each and everyone one of us that pay our local taxes to WMDC along with all other contributors in the LA ,have contributed to deliver that.
Anyhow, bye bye MC and JM , bring on the new chapter'"
Fully agree with all of that.
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| Ironically, weren't we in the middle of a takeover when we travelled to Catalans in 2011.
Despite all the off field goings on, we won.
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| Some of what he said in the article will be true but some of it is certainly bending the truth and he glosses over some key points.
He said he will give away his shares and then in not so many words says that he wants his directors loans back which is contradictory.
The covid loan came out of nowhere as he previously said that we didn't need and had not take one so yet again the fans have not been told the truth.
Claiming that we now have a £10 million pound asset is laughable, just because something costs circa £10 million to build does not mean it is worth that. An actual rugby stadium in itself is effectively worthless as it cannot be bought and sold like normal property such as Houses can so the main value is in the land itself and if people are claiming that to be worth £10 million then they are in cloud cuckoo land. Also if you were getting a £10 million pound asset for the cost of taken on about £4million in debt the business people would be queuing up to make a profit. I am sorry but the maths simply do not stack up.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"I don't tell lies or spread lies, I've done my bit to save our club, you can thank me and buy me a drink.if you like. My conscience is clear and my head is held high. Go find the truth PT you might not like it. Not long now till he goes then you can stop grovelling'"
Good grief!
You’ll be wanting a crowd funding page set up to raise funds for the erection of a huge statue of you with your head held high with a plaque below of how you and others fought to bring down evil tyranny at Wakefield Trinity.
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Good grief!
You’ll be wanting a crowd funding page set up to raise funds for the erection of a huge statue of you with your head held high with a plaque below of how you and others fought to bring down evil tyranny at Wakefield Trinity.'" if you would like to be my campaign manager I've got no problem with that, you can even unveil my statue too If it makes you feel happy. Lovely and sunny outside so keep smiling old boy.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"all most fans want is some HOPE, hopefully a new chapter is here shortly where the club and team make this city proud again'"
Why not give them the chance to sort it out then instead of speculating about it when [iobviously[/i you have no idea what is [iactually[/i going on?
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| Latest rumour that I am hearing is that it is nearly a done-deal
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| Quote ="FIL"Latest rumour that I am hearing is that it is nearly a done-deal
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Well that's good to hear. I wonder if he has endorsed or even dreamt up the Fifita move? Also, has the change in heart to deal with Crofty's and Shaws agent maybe driven by the fact that the current blockers are being removed?
Fingers crossed for what might be upcoming.
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| Altofts, Directors loans and shares are two different things? Not sure what is contradictory.
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| Quote ="Manuel"Altofts, Directors loans and shares are two different things? Not sure what is contradictory.'"
I am well aware they are 2 different things but saying you are giving your shares away but still wanting directors loans back in effect means that he isn't giving the club away for nothing like he is making out because in order for him to give away his shares he wants his loans paying back.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"I am well aware they are 2 different things but saying you are giving your shares away but still wanting directors loans back in effect means that he isn't giving the club away for nothing like he is making out because in order for him to give away his shares he wants his loans paying back.'"
He didn't say he was giving the club away for nothing.. You are putting words in his mouth.
For a start he doesn't whole own the club so he couldn't 'give it away even if he wanted to. He isn't even majority shareholder.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He didn't say he was giving the club away for nothing.. You are putting words in his mouth.
For a start he doesn't whole own the club so he couldn't 'give it away even if he wanted to. He isn't even majority shareholder.'"
Correct he didn't but he said many a time he would sell for £1, now it seems that he wants his loans paid off aswell. I am well aware that technically paying off his loans isn't the same as buying the club but it is yet another example of him bending the truth.
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| How much are these 'loans' supposed to be?
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"Correct he didn't but he said many a time he would sell for £1, now it seems that he wants his loans paid off aswell. I am well aware that technically paying off his loans isn't the same as buying the club but it is yet another example of him bending the truth.'"
1) selling for £1 always included the debts.
2) it says in the article they haven't discussed director loans yet
3) why shouldn't he want his loan paying back?
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