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| Quote ="homme vaste"Let's be honest Dave, there are very few players that have gone to Hull FC over the last few years and performed well consistently, infact it's quite the opposite, you've taken what on the face it of it are brilliant players or players with lots of potential and turned them into rubbish ones... Although I think you may have turned a corner bringing Cartwright in and seem to have a few good young players with lots of potential, particularly the young fullback, half and hooker you have coming through.'"
I don't think that's true, plenty of good players have come and performed well, the issue we have spent money on either shocking players or paid too much for injury prone players.
Shocking recruitment of players and coaches has led us to this mess
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| Quote ="FOREVERTRIN"Dave,as regards your post on Trueman it's pretty much how I've seen him play on tv and agree entirely.
I don't think there is any doubting that he was an exceptional player at Cas and DP must be confident that he can get back to that kind of form.If he's in then he will get my full backing.'"
Good post and I agree, there is a good player there and you only have to look at Evalds, who looked finished at Cas and has been exceptional.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'd love you to give me an example, although I told you Proctor was a terrible signing and you told me he wasn't.
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Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.
Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire
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| Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams
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| Quote ="vastman"Proctor didn’t come to us from Hull.
Ok, the last few years if that helps, fact is your club was in free fall and even now some of your signings have been dire'"
Never said we haven't been poor the last 7 or so years and recruitment has been terrible.
Some of our players leaving have been poor(Gale, Reynolds l, Evans, Trueman, Ockunbot, Pele etc) , some good (Connor, Swift, Litten, Griffin, Clifford etc).
Scott's a good player with potential, picks up alot of injuries though.
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| Powell pretty much confirmed we’d signed Truman as when asked he said he. Wasn’t going to comment on that !
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| Quote ="alegend"Can not get my head round the fact that we are signing a 6 and 7 from two of the worst teams in S L this season and they are going to make us a top 8 team Playing in the spine of the team they have got to take some responsibility for the poor form of the two teams'"
I get where you’re coming from, but you need to have kept an eye on them to see that it’s hard to pin much responsibility on them. Russell has only started 11 games, some of them at hooker, in a spine dominated by two talented plonkers (Connor and Lolohea). The idea of bringing him in is to let him lead a team around instead of being backup or second fiddle. Trueman’s played 11 games all season, and has always looked one of their better players. If Trueman stays fit we’re onto a winner. On Russell I’m not so confident, but would love to be proved wrong.
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| Quote ="Butcher"I get where you’re coming from, but you need to have kept an eye on them to see that it’s hard to pin much responsibility on them. Russell has only started 11 games, some of them at hooker, in a spine dominated by two talented plonkers (Connor and Lolohea). The idea of bringing him in is to let him lead a team around instead of being backup or second fiddle. Trueman’s played 11 games all season, and has always looked one of their better players. If Trueman stays fit we’re onto a winner. On Russell I’m not so confident, but would love to be proved wrong.'"
Trueman could go either way for Wakey, he'll be much better with a proper pre season which he's never had at Hull but he's been far from one of our better players, an on loan Reynolds and an 18 year old Charles have been much better. I dont think the marquee contract helped his performances with the expectation to perform as a marquee player in the pressure cooker at Hull. I hope he goes well and stays injury free whether that's with Hull or Wakey, the kid deserves some luck. There's a good player in there he just needs a chance to show it consistently.
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| If you’ve watched rugby long enough and taken things on board over the many years of the game players move from club to club and a lot fit in well and excell and many don’t, ive got trust in DP to select the players we need
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| On the logic of signing players from lower SL I don't get. All the clubs in top half do this and no one says anything, it's like saying to Catalan "don't sign Tom J as he only plays for Wakey". Or Alex Whalmsley only plays for Batley
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| Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?
Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?
Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.'"
Well the target is very much to be top 6 in the return season. I’m pretty sure Ellis has gone on record as such. I’m pretty sure he won’t write off being a top 6 playoffs never mind top 8.
Spending full cap and marquee x2 if certainly be disappointed if we didn’t at least challenge for playoffs in our return year.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Don’t know what alegend is expecting, Nathan Cleary and Sam Walker in one window?
Keeps going on about Trueman and Russel not getting us in top eight, well this might come a bit of a shock to you alegend, but Rome wasn’t built in a day! We aren’t going to be an instant top eight club even though that would be nice.'"
Just looked to me like panic buying in the most important position on the park 7 month before S L starts if we are in
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| I don't think you see the point alegend. To me looks as we are building a team of good age with still a lot to prove I.e hall , Russell,Trueman and possibly best years to come. Along with a couple of elder proven player's I e mcmekenn. Rugby is a team game, give me a well drilled team anyday
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| Quote ="Trin e ti"I don't think you see the point alegend. To me looks as we are building a team of good age with still a lot to prove I.e hall , Russell,Trueman and possibly best years to come. Along with a couple of elder proven player's I e mcmekenn. Rugby is a team game, give me a well drilled team anyday'"
Does not matter how well drilled your team is ,if your spine is not up to it you will struggle ,As said been the main problem at Wakefield for the last 3 year
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| I think if you take your mind back 18 months ago and think if we had been in the market for the player we are now would we turn our nose up at Olly Russell and Trueman? Or bringing in two Marquees?
The plan is a 4 year plan not a 2 year one. I guess next years target is aim for playoff, year after play offs and year 4 silverware. We need to build with players who are available year on year to build a squad, you can't just get it or you will just do what Salford did. Or look a Leigh rose fast and seem possibly to be crashing and burning.
HKR took a pragmatic slow approach to building and it's taken the a few year to look like challengers so just trust the process and enjoy the ride.
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| Quote ="alegend"Does not matter how well drilled your team is ,if your spine is not up to it you will struggle ,As said been the main problem at Wakefield for the last 3 year'"
You need to look forward not back
The club is and sure 99% of supporters are too. These are super league players and as someone pointed out you build a team ie hull kr.. Best teams not necessarily have the best players I for one think we are making some shrewd signings and not finished yet I believe. So enjoy this season as I think next will be interesting too.
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| Still have nightmares about the last fullback we signed from London
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| The Alex walker thing was a bit of a cock up but this guy looks decent and it’s an area where we need to strengthen the squad - no not getting rid of max but we need cover at full back
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| Ah that’d be a quality signing. Didn’t even know he was British so that’s a bonus. Seen him a few times this season and thought he looked a natural, fully-developed player, which makes sense if he’s 24. And probably the perfect level to sit behind Jowitt without sulking. Because let’s be honest - we’ve got cover at full back this year (Walmsley or Booth), but we need more than that next year
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| Quote ="Butcher"Ah that’d be a quality signing. Didn’t even know he was British so that’s a bonus. Seen him a few times this season and thought he looked a natural, fully-developed player, which makes sense if he’s 24. And probably the perfect level to sit behind Jowitt without sulking. Because let’s be honest - we’ve got cover at full back this year (Walmsley or Booth), but we need more than that next year'"
I’ve watched Booth a few times and to me he looks best at Centre. He’s tall and rangy with a good step and decent speed. If he can put on a stone he could be a handful to say the least.
Walmesley looks like a play anywhere type, but predominantly the wing. I think virtually all our backs for next year with the exception of TJ are multi purpose, and imo good multi purpose rather than makeshift. This will be vital in our first few seasons back in SL.
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| Quote ="alegend"Does not matter how well drilled your team is ,if your spine is not up to it you will struggle ,As said been the main problem at Wakefield for the last 3 year'"
For god sake move on, different club hugely different ambitions. Does Powell seem the kind of bloke who panics. He’s been coaching for 20 years now and whilst at Cas he produced one of the best attacking teams to ever Grace SL on a fairly limited budget. Warrington didn’t work out but that’s one glitch, all coaches have those, even Wayne Bennett.
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| The club is totally different now, we really do our research before we sign players. We won't get it right everything but I am sure we will get far more right than wrong. In the past we were to ready and gullible to believe the guff peddled by agents trying to off load their players. These days Steve Mills performs hours of research on all our signings which is a far more professional approach.
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| Quote ="vastman"I’ve watched Booth a few times and to me he looks best at Centre. He’s tall and rangy with a good step and decent speed. If he can put on a stone he could be a handful to say the least.
Walmesley looks like a play anywhere type, but predominantly the wing. I think virtually all our backs for next year with the exception of TJ are multi purpose, and imo good multi purpose rather than makeshift. This will be vital in our first few seasons back in SL.'"
Yeah totally agree on Booth. He looks a great prospect, and some of the tries he’s scored in the reserves at centre have been top class. Just don’t think he’d be good enough cover at fullback in SL next year. Walmsley could potentially do it, but he still looks like a winger playing fullback to me.
If rumours are to be believed and we’ve already signed Trueman, Rourke, Storton and Matty Russell then I like how our squad’s shaping up for next year already. Would like to see one more worldie backrower sign, then I think we’d be good enough on paper to make a charge at top 8/6.
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