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| Quote ="The Avenger"There’s nothing to stop Castleford, trying it on either, they could go to the developer and say give us 10 million now instead of 12 million later'"
That can't happen.
£12.2m is the amount stated in the S106. That's the amount that has to be paid to WMDC for distribution to the WR site.
It is in no way negotiable.
In fact, the longer it goes on, the less £12.2m will get them (we had the same issue with the rising materials costs too).
I think WMDC learned the lessons of the Yorkcourt S106 debacle.
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| Quote ="dboy"That can't happen.
£12.2m is the amount stated in the S106. That's the amount that has to be paid to WMDC for distribution to the WR site.
It is in no way negotiable.
In fact, the longer it goes on, the less £12.2m will get them (we had the same issue with the rising materials costs too).
I think WMDC learned the lessons of the Yorkcourt S106 debacle.'" even if both parties agreed?
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"even if both parties agreed?'"
No, £12.2m is the agreed fee - and the 3rd party is WMDC.
Imagine the fraud implications if S106's were somehow circumvented...
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They're a small group who live on Spittal Hardwick Lane who have been objecting all the way back to the original retail plan. They were allocated a 5 minute spot to put their case for refusal at the council meeting but it failed. Nothing to lose with one last throw of the dice I suppose.
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They're a small group who live on Spittal Hardwick Lane who have been objecting all the way back to the original retail plan. They were allocated a 5 minute spot to put their case for refusal at the council meeting but it failed. Nothing to lose with one last throw of the dice I suppose.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"They're a small group who live on Spittal Hardwick Lane who have been objecting all the way back to the original retail plan. They were allocated a 5 minute spot to put their case for refusal at the council meeting but it failed. Nothing to lose with one last throw of the dice I suppose.'"
Can’t see any problem here for cas..getting this signed off.
The government ombudsman probably won’t even know where Castleford is or Yorkshire for that matter..
Be interesting to see how Cas play their cards regarding the Wakefield council funds, in relation to accumulating IMG points..
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"They're a small group who live on Spittal Hardwick Lane who have been objecting all the way back to the original retail plan. They were allocated a 5 minute spot to put their case for refusal at the council meeting but it failed. Nothing to lose with one last throw of the dice I suppose.'"
It was a small group who got enough attention that ended up with NM been sent to a PI. There are similarities and the issue with the allocation of the land may be something they grab onto. I don't think it will take that course, but you never know.
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Can’t see any problem here for cas..getting this signed off.
The government ombudsman probably won’t even know where Castleford is or Yorkshire for that matter..
Be interesting to see how Cas play their cards regarding the Wakefield council funds, in relation to accumulating IMG points..'"
Already using it for the bodge. A few padded seats here, a roped off area there.. .
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Can’t see any problem here for cas..getting this signed off.
The government ombudsman probably won’t even know where Castleford is or Yorkshire for that matter..
Be interesting to see how Cas play their cards regarding the Wakefield council funds, in relation to accumulating IMG points..'"
I can.
Approval of the Axiom build was technically illegal, as the development is banned under WMDCs OWN Local Development Plan.
WMDC planning committee have approved something that WMDC planning department say can't be built. Fun and games.
I'd fancy it to get rubber stamped in time, but not without some considerable time/hassle.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Already using it for the bodge. A few padded seats here, a roped off area there.. .'" it also looks like they’re going to do the whole of the princess street stand in seats.so they are probably looking to do the full redevelopment while staying at Weldon Road
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"it also looks like they’re going to do the whole of the princess street stand in seats.so they are probably looking to do the full redevelopment while staying at Weldon Road'"
Which underlines what other fans said about clubs like us and them - these "improvements could have been done years ago and we chose to spend elsewhere" instead.
I would of course counter that we didn't own BV, so that kind of investment wasn't feasible, even if we had the dosh (and we didn't anyway).
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| Whole of Princess street stand to be seated. Seats ordered and hope to be installed for Saints game on May 10th along with many more improvements.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Whole of Princess street stand to be seated. Seats ordered and hope to be installed for Saints game on May 10th along with many more improvements.'"
That'll be impressive if the can do it.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That'll be impressive if the can do it.'"
It was obviously their only option if they want to secure points to stay in SL 2025.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"Whole of Princess street stand to be seated. Seats ordered and hope to be installed for Saints game on May 10th along with many more improvements.'"
I think it would be prudent for Wakefield to put a bit of extra out of hours security in our East Stand.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That'll be impressive if the can do it.'"
I agree it will. It's a long statement but it seems to say the only thing they will be missing for maximum stadium points is LED advertising boards. They hope to do 3 sides whin/if the full upgrade happens.
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| Quote ="newgroundb4wakey"I agree it will. It's a long statement but it seems to say the only thing they will be missing for maximum stadium points is LED advertising boards. They hope to do 3 sides whin/if the full upgrade happens.'"
I assume you mean maximum points on the stadium section?
That would actually mean your average crowd is also your capacity.
More likely they mean they get maximum on the facilities part of that section which gets you an extra point if you do.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I assume you mean maximum points on the stadium section?
That would actually mean your average crowd is also your capacity.
More likely they mean they get maximum on the facilities part of that section which gets you an extra point if you do.'"
So assuming all this gets completed how close to the magic 15 does this get cas?
It’ looks as though us , Cas , Toulouse and Leigh are fairly close together points wise.
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| I think Cas, Leigh and ourselves will be on circa 14 points, I don't see how Toulouse can improve on their score dramatically.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"I think Cas, Leigh and ourselves will be on circa 14 points, I don't see how Toulouse can improve on their score dramatically.'"
Going to be a close run thing mate.
We don’t need to be the odd one out!
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| Quote ="Belle Vue"Going to be a close run thing mate.
We don’t need to be the odd one out!'"
I think there will be one spot for grabs in 2025 with London. It will be between us, Toulouse and bulls for it. Adding the LED boards before the scores and performing well on the pitch should see us claim that spot.
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"I think there will be one spot for grabs in 2025 with London. It will be between us, Toulouse and bulls for it. Adding the LED boards before the scores and performing well on the pitch should see us claim that spot.'"
Why are you not putting Cas or Salford in that?
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| I'm confident we will grade higher than at least 2 current SL teams.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I assume you mean maximum points on the stadium section?
That would actually mean your average crowd is also your capacity.
More likely they mean they get maximum on the facilities part of that section which gets you an extra point if you do.'"
Correct, I should have made that clearer.
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| If Cas finish 11th this year, their league points will drop by 0.15 points.
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| Quote ="dboy"If Cas finish 11th this year, their league points will drop by 0.15 points.'"
That's not quite correct.
The way it's worked out you can only drop in multiples of 0.11.
And it depends what other teams around them do as it's an average over 3 years.
But from my calculations they'll actually lose 0.22 points assuming both Leigh and Hull finish higher than them.
They would have 2.89 points for league position if they finish 11th.
They had 3.11 last time.
If we win GF we'd end up with 2.67 points (assuming London don't finish higher than 12th.
But if we do win GF and 1895 we'd have an extra bonus on 0.35 taking us to 3.02.......0.13 higher than Cas.
Fine margins.
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