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| Quote ="Alchemist1"I think wane will have his favourites like sam tomkins at full back but i also think he will pick players on form and fitness so if tom keeps scoring and stays fit that number 2 jersey is his'"
Believe me wane will pick players who he thinks can do a job and he will expect them to do that job and if they can’t they won’t play, he simply hates losing
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"Believe me wane will pick players who he thinks can do a job and he will expect them to do that job and if they can’t they won’t play, he simply hates losing'"
Funny because it never seemed to bother him as a player. That's not a dig at you, just funny how he expects more from others than he ever gave himself. As a player he had a few good seasons at best, never impressed me.
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| Quote ="vastman"Funny because it never seemed to bother him as a player. That's not a dig at you, just funny how he expects more from others than he ever gave himself. As a player he had a few good seasons at best, never impressed me.'"
I'd go as far as saying he had just one stand out game.
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| Quote ="PopTart"The problem is its hard for a winger to switch sides.
So mcGilivray gets a better chance on the right as he has less competition.
TJ is competing with Makinson and Handley so has a tough position to fill.'"
Makinson plays on the right wing....
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Makinson plays on the right wing....'"
That's what I thought but I wasn't sure.
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| Quote ="snowie"which equates to 23.67 mph, over what distance is that did they say'"
They track the speed over a break and clock the fastest speed rather than an average speed over a distance
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| Quote ="BarnsleyGull"Makinson plays on the right wing....'"
Apologies you are right.
They played him on the left for England but he plays right for Sts.
Seems like a good fit for TJ then as TM is the only one who can touch him in attack.
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| Quote ="PopTart"NRL just announced that Addo-Carr is fastest so far this year with a top speed of 38.1 km/h.
I wonder what speed TJ hits.'"
Thing about Tom is he never seems flat out. He always does just enough so it's difficult to know what his top speed is. I've seen him burn off Tom Davies and David Mead in a long chase.
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| Quote ="PopTart"NRL just announced that Addo-Carr is fastest so far this year with a top speed of 38.1 km/h.
I wonder what speed TJ hits.'"
He flew past me last week....must have been doing at least 60 mph in his BMW
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| Quote ="PopTart"NRL just announced that Addo-Carr is fastest so far this year with a top speed of 38.1 km/h.
I wonder what speed TJ hits.'"
Think the fastest speed clocked last year in SL was Matty Ashton at wire, 36.43 so not too far off.
Johnstone hasn't been in the top 5 last 3 years in terms of top speed clocked.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Thing about Tom is he never seems flat out. He always does just enough so it's difficult to know what his top speed is. I've seen him burn off Tom Davies and David Mead in a long chase.'"
A lot of people mistake being able to run fast as being the same as being a fast RL winger, including a lot of RL pundits.
Not sure TJ is all that fast in a straight line sprint, though clearly no slouch.
What really makes him 'fast' is a combination of things. He can sprint obviously but he has tremendous balance, athleticism to the point of being almost acrobatic, anticipation and timing. Above all he has few nerves, once he has the ball in hand he goes for it, never questions himself, never deviates he just wants to score. That's what really does it, whether it be an 80 yarder or some magical piece of contortion, if there is a chance then he will take it and 95% of the time will score.
That's what makes him a great SL player and I suspect will make him a true international star.
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| That's a good point.
Clearly Addo-Carr is elite level across the board but how you run is as important as how fast you run.
Daz Clarke hit a top speed of 35.82kph but for a winger it's how fast you get to that top speed and how long you can maintain it.
TJ seems to be able to maintain a high speed for a long sprint. I think that's why he looks to be cruising as others are really straining to keep going.
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| Quote ="PopTart"That's a good point.
Clearly Addo-Carr is elite level across the board but how you run is as important as how fast you run.
Daz Clarke hit a top speed of 35.82kph but for a winger it's how fast you get to that top speed and how long you can maintain it.
TJ seems to be able to maintain a high speed for a long sprint. I think that's why he looks to be cruising as others are really straining to keep going.'"
It's often down to running style, I have no idea how the science works but some runners look faster than others even when running at the same speed.
Dougie Laughton once said about a trialist winger, 'his pace is deceptive, he's even slower than he looks'. I imagine it works the same in reverse
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| Quote ="vastman"It's often down to running style, I have no idea how the science works but some runners look faster than others even when running at the same speed.
Dougie Laughton once said about a trialist winger, 'his pace is deceptive, he's even slower than he looks'. I imagine it works the same in reverse
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Lewis Tierney is the classic demonstration of this phenomenon. His arms and legs move at high speed but he makes very little ground. I always liken this style to running the wrong way on one of those airport moving floors.
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| Wasn't Reece Lyne regarded by some as the fastest man in SL about the time that he joined us? I don't know if there is any official speed data available for him during that period though.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Wasn't Reece Lyne regarded by some as the fastest man in SL about the time that he joined us? I don't know if there is any official speed data available for him during that period though.'"
Don’t remember that but he definitely arrived with the reputation of being quick.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Wasn't Reece Lyne regarded by some as the fastest man in SL about the time that he joined us? I don't know if there is any official speed data available for him during that period though.'"
No. Never that.
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| Quote ="Redscat"Wasn't Reece Lyne regarded by some as the fastest man in SL about the time that he joined us? I don't know if there is any official speed data available for him during that period though.'" yes but it was always sidewards
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| Quote ="snowie"yes but it was always sidewards'"
Unfair.
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| Quote ="vastman"Unfair.'" lighten up will yer
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| Reece has chosen to bulk up a lot during his stay but is still pretty sharp when he gets a break.
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| I seem to recall that when Reece arrived, at some point they put him up against another reputed "speed merchant", just who I can't recall, in a length of the pitch race against each other. Perhaps I dreamed it all.
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| Quote ="Redscat"I seem to recall that when Reece arrived, at some point they put him up against another reputed "speed merchant", just who I can't recall, in a length of the pitch race against each other. Perhaps I dreamed it all.
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I don't remember that at all.
Doesn't mean it's not true though.
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| Speed alone doesn't make you a great winger.
As has been pointed out Tom has the full bag of tricks and, that's what makes him great . If he stays clear of injuries this season he'll get even better.
I remember Berwyn Jones, an olympic sprinter we signed in the 60's and reputedly the 4th fastest man in the world scoring many tries with speed alone, but the game was different then and wingers had more room to work in.
If Jones was playing now, with his speed he would still probably blow them all away (a guess ) but he wouldn't score half as many tries as he did then.
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| Quote ="snowie"lighten up will yer'"
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