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| Quote ="Mr Bliss"I would like to see as many 'home grown' players playing on the understanding that it is up to them which league they will be playing in next season.'"
That puts lot of pressure on the young players.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Smith if playing at his best is worth playing.
Locke, although I really like him, could easily be replaced by Jowett. I really like him.'"
If playing at his best.....he is entirely unreliable....seen him turn it in give up and not give a toss so many many times....this is the nature of the "man" Most over rated player I have ever seen. The bloke is rubbish on every level. poor timmy the depressed tortured genius......maybe if he grew a back bone and behaved in a way that gained the respect of others he might have a better opinion of himself ....or he could just go on the lash and think feck it I am a superstar and the rules don't apply to me.
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| Quote ="Mable_Syrup"MC has said on twitter that KL has not flown home. I dont like it but beleive we must be pragmatic and use these two players to help ensure survival then get rid.'"
MC since clarifed that he was refuting the allegation on a tweet that Lyne had an existing drink driving offence. MC did not state Locke hasn't gone home.
There is a posting on instagram doing the rounds between Godinet and Locke which clearly indicates that Locke has gone home. No official announcement yet from the club.
The fact Locke has posted it on social media makes me suspect he has left the country.
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| Quote ="worksopwildcat"If playing at his best.....he is entirely unreliable....seen him turn it in give up and not give a toss so many many times....this is the nature of the "man" Most over rated player I have ever seen. The bloke is rubbish on every level. poor timmy the depressed tortured genius......maybe if he grew a back bone and behaved in a way that gained the respect of others he might have a better opinion of himself ....or he could just go on the lash and think feck it I am a superstar and the rules don't apply to me.'"
Although I take your point.
Having a better opinion of yourself is not related to having Bi-Polar.
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| Quote ="wakeytrin"That puts lot of pressure on the young players.'"
I agree it does but IMO you do get a guaranteed sense of commitment from them that has been lacking in some of our more senior players for a lot of this season.
These guys just want a chance to play, in a Wakey shirt and to prove they are good enough. From what I've seen of all 3 of the ones that played on Saturday, they ARE good enough. They might make some mistakes but it won't be because they've just given up or decided they're not in the mood today.
Let's get some local pride back in the side and if we go down at least let's go down fighting, not with a whimper, feeling sorry for ourselves.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Although I take your point.
Having a better opinion of yourself is not related to having Bi-Polar.'"
Maybe your right....I am not any sort of medical expert and probably did jump into that comment both feet first (through frustration). Through my own experience in life I have always felt that if you do good stuff....do the right thing....make good choices then the effect is that you feel comfortable with yourself. self esteem surely comes from behaving in a positive and socially acceptable manner.
I am disgusted by his behaviour.......aside from the drink driving allegation....its the failing to give a sample that also riles me.......for christs sake if you've made a mistake (a massive mistake) then surely the right thing to do is to put your hand up and accept the consequences......that's what a man would do surely...hope I never see him in a trinity shirt again......I cant forgive this.
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| I think it's a sad situation.
He has shown some of the most skillful individual moments ever seen at Belle Vue (and I realise how biga thing that is to say) but at the same time he has shown some of the most poor in terms of skills and poor in terms of attitude. He should have been a notable player in the game as a whole (rather than a great) but he will just be washed away as a what could have been kind of player.
But no matter what "individual moments" he has shown, he has to go now for me.
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| Some people blowing things out of proportion here without knowing the full details, not condoning what they've allegedly done but people make mistakes. I've looked on Locke's Instagram and he hasn't posted anything to say he's gone back to Aus.
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| If you look at how Tim Smith was playing in 2005 when named young player of the year he was just magical had it all pass/kick reading the game and had he kicked on we would have never seen him at BV. Trouble was he did not and ended up with Para saying enough after constantly going on the lash if only we could have seen the full version of a 20 year old Smith at his best alas we only got an odd glimpse of that and not much of it this season. I could go with him playing for the club again if he had put his hand up and said he had a problem with the alcohol again but drink driving no way would I be happy with him ever playing for the club again.
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| I would ask if this was a one off episode or if it was the usual way they acted every week prior to games.If so it would explain the drop in their performance which has probably resulted in our not avoiding the million pound game.A total lack of professionalism !
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| We will never know if it was the usual way or not but it was why Para gave up on Smith it being the usual way at the time
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| If Locke has gone home, whose to say that smith would not have done the same had he not an appointment with the magistrates at the end of the month??????
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| Let's get some local pride back in the side and if we go down at least let's go down fighting, not with a whimper, feeling sorry for ourselves.'"
I am sorry but this is just living in fantasy land, we cannot afford to go down because once we do I doubt we will ever get back again. It is better to try to sort the future out whilst in SL when your income potential is at it's greatest.
There is no such thing as a good relegation regardless of the situation because supporters can say "we did the right thing" which will last until it sinks in that after 17 seasons we are no longer at the top table.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Smith if playing at his best is worth playing.
Locke, although I really like him, could easily be replaced by Jowett. I really like him.'"
Smith hasn't been anywhere near his best for over a year now, and even before that he was inconsistent. But unfortunately we have few options at scrum half with Godinet seemingly miles away from being fully fit.
Locke will be a big loss for the Bradford game, Its putting massive pressure on Jowett at such an early stage in his career. Although I do like him and hope he makes the number 1 shirt his own from next season.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell":von3l7luLet's get some local pride back in the side and if we go down at least let's go down fighting, not with a whimper, feeling sorry for ourselves.'"
Maybe I didn't word it very well. I'm not in any way suggesting that we can afford to go down. My feeling however is that the local lads have much more desire to play for the shirt than we've seen from a lot of the senior players. I think they'd put more effort in than some to whom Wakey is just another job, not THEIR club.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"Some people blowing things out of proportion here without knowing the full details, not condoning what they've allegedly done but people make mistakes. I've looked on Locke's Instagram and he hasn't posted anything to say he's gone back to Aus.'"
Look on the Northstanders Facebook page from this morning. I think it is one of their partner's Instagram posts (I never said it was specifically Locke's account but look for Chelsea Pitman). The post includes a picture of Locke sat on the floor and Pita in the background. There are text comments between them saying goodbye and use a reference of #ukfamily2015 Once you've found that then let us know if you think Locke is still here.
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| I cannot understand the silence from the club if they have cancelled the contracts by mutual consent then say so if not then say so but just to say "I have no idea where he is ". We may not know but I am sure all the other clubs will so we are not gaining from keeping it a secret from the Wakefield supporters.
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| I really couldn't give a monkeys where the two clowns are. Brian Smith will, like last week, pick his best team from the players available and I'll be there to cheer them on.
I know firing people is difficult enough even when clear lines have been crossed so I guess the club has more reason to get it absolutely right. Keeping Scarlet Pimpernel in the loop might be taking a back seat at present.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I know firing people is difficult enough even when clear lines have been crossed so I guess the club has more reason to get it absolutely right. Keeping Scarlet Pimpernel in the loop might be taking a back seat at present.'"
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| I note that the charge is against Smith for careless driving and failing to provide a specimen which has the same outcome just a slightly different conviction code. I cannot see any charges being levied against Locke but as you say the club knows best as they have shown over the season.
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| Quote ="wildshot"Look on the Northstanders Facebook page from this morning. I think it is one of their partner's Instagram posts (I never said it was specifically Locke's account but look for Chelsea Pitman). The post includes a picture of Locke sat on the floor and Pita in the background. There are text comments between them saying goodbye and use a reference of #ukfamily2015 Once you've found that then let us know if you think Locke is still here.'"
Not seen the thing on Facebook but he's recently put a video on Instagram saying he's back home with his son, so yeah seems he's gone.
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| Quote ="Jizzer"Not seen the thing on Facebook but he's recently put a video on Instagram saying he's back home with his son, so yeah seems he's gone.'"
Don't blame him really
From the moment he set foot in the country it's been a disaster for him.
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| does brian smith know who is best team is
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| Brian Smith on Radio Leeds said that neither Locke or Smith would play in MPG.
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