Nothing stiff or upper about me - I'm just saying that I am looking forward to the challenges that lie ahead. We will have good times and bad times and, it seems, there will be old faces gone and hopefully some new ones on board - nothing much changes.

It seems to me that people have lost a huge amount of perspective. I ask you, when was the game any different from today? From one division - and despite the great sides of the 60's there were some appalling crowds - to two, to three, to promotion, to licencing, to summer rugby, to extra fixtures, to salary caps, to academies, to grand finals, to first past the post...... - and back again..... we've seen it all in this sport, but we're still here and I'm still here and will continue to be so. What's changed?

Bring on Salford!

Can I just say this, I stopped going watching Leigh almost 2 years ago, I was bored with nothing to play for, bored with dwindling crowds in a souless LSV ( give me Hilton Park anyday ) , dissolutioned with a clueless administration

I attended your final league match against Salford, it is the only time I have sat in the LSV's South Stand, bloody Hell I enjoyed that night, you lot didnt stop singing for the full 80 minutes, I could hear you as I was walking over the canal bridge 600 yards away

I really do envy you playing at Belle Vue against quality opposition with decent away support and a great atmosphere, the ONLY thing missing for you right now is?

Genuine competition, something ' Real ' to play for, you are going to get that back , why would you now decide not to go? ,

Well said that man. This new system is far, far better for Wakey than any 1 up 1 down or 2 up 2 down system if people would just stop to think about it instead of blindly jumping on the bandwagon of negativity. It's a simple system, not a complicated one at all with significant levels of funding to help ambitious clubs to make the step up. And importantly it's fair for all clubs throughout the leagues.

How do you know that "the paying public are having changes forced upon them they just don't want"?
I take 99% of the tripe on the VT with a huge dollop of salt but there's a poll on there in which a (small) majority agree with the change. You talk about the clowns at the top table but we voted in favour didn't we? Anyway, we are where we are. I suggest we get on with it. The best way to stick it up the governing body is to come higher than 12th next year and move forward from there. It would be great if all fans were there to cheer them on.

Sorry but, whatever position Wakefield finish in the league next season has got nothing to do with the new structure being a good thing or otherwise.
Ok, I haven't made a poll of supporters on the forum but, everybody that I have spoken to personally,(with one exception) thinks that it is utter garbage.
Of course, they may all be wrong but, I happen to agree with them.
The bottom half of SL will be in a cycle of perpetual relegation struggle whether they like it or not.
First of all 2 clubs face the drop this season and after that, there will be 4-6 clubs involved EVERY SEASON and this simply will not allow these clubs to plan for SL and grow their fan base.
If you can remember when SL was formed, the abolition of relegation was cited as a way to help the clubs improve junior development and increase the numbers of home grown players.
There has been progress with this at most clubs and this will cease to happen, just as it did in the old Division 1 days, with journeymen pros moving from bottom club to bottom club.
Regarding us voting in favour, who knows but, we are hardly in a position to go against the wishes of the RFL.

Yes, I will be watching Wakefield both home and away next season but, this doesn't make the situation right and when you see the numbers of long standing supporters who are prepared to walk away from the game because of the nature of the change, it tells you that something has gone horribly wrong.

If you are happy with the change, that's fine but I ain't !

Wrencat , what do you suggest?

Tbf I would have gone with 1 up 1 down.

This negates the possibility of a team finishing 9th (within a couple of points of the play offs) and still getting dropped.

All that would then need to be decided is which CC club to promote, either top of the ladder after the regular rounds or GF winners and there should also be some minimum criteria attached.

The main difficulty with P/R between SL and the CC has been the huge gap in funding, making it almost impossible for the CC clubs to build a decent squad but, this has been addressed (at least we think so)

I realise this is too simple for our sport and doesn't offer a raft of contrived new meaningful fixtures, so I remain disgruntled and with even less faith in the clowns that have a duty to improve the sport.

I suggest people STOP moaning and get on with it.

Thank God there was no internet and messageboards back in 1895!

12, or 14 ?

Either

The key element to P/R was the disparity between the SL income and that of the CC
The lunacy of the new structure is that you could win the title from 8th and be relegated from 9th

Not really, your season doesnt end until you have played 30 games

So in order to reduce the comp to 12 teams, we now have some contrived relegation play off involving 4 SL teams, plus 4 CC teams just to balance the fixture programme ??

Just out of interest, what does CC mean?

Well, in this instance it's not The Challenge Cup

Only 1 ' C ' in Championship

Championship Clubs

" Championship Clubs teams " ? Nah, you've forgotten its not sponsored by the Co oP anymore, havent you?

Behave, he could've referred to it as the NFP.