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| Quote ="musson"Quelle surprise is my second fav poster of all time
Second only to Mr Benson
This is great news if he is coming back to the forum especially after last night drubbing
I think the forum needs some good news'"
You don't say, I wonder why, not.
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| Quote ="altofts wildcat"That first half was awful, possibly the worst we have been since 2015. 2nd half was a bit better but I think a bit of that was due to Leeds not really getting out of 1st gear.
I though Jowitt was good again but I fear he will get a ban for sliding in with his knees on Newman.'"
Don't agree with that tbh. Leeds played the same in both halves and were never more than ordinary. We bossed the SH and showed that we can play decent RL.
However, until our players finally realise that you cannot play only half a game, especially only a second-half we won't beat anyone. This is not new either it's been a recurring issue since 2019! It cost Chester his job and it will cost Poaching unless he roots it out.
I think the last time I saw us get into a team from the start was against Hudds last year and even then we tailed off at the end. However, the damage was done by then and Hudds couldn't come back. Yet for some reason we now seem to be trying to win games after giving teams a start when we need to start at minute one, not minute 35.
I'm no coach and I have no idea how to rectify it, but I like most on here can see it as clear as day and I'm certain WP can.
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| Quote ="vastman"You don't say, I wonder why, not.'"
Completely pointless post vastcap
As usual you’re looking for an argument,
What is wrong with you……… seriously
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| Quote ="musson"Completely pointless post vastcap
As usual you’re looking for an argument,
What is wrong with you……… seriously'"
that's rich.
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| Credit to Poching I'd say. We (Leeds) completed well, kicked well and moved the ball wide quick first half, taking advantage of a threequarter line defending uncertainly. In the half time break he got your defence straightened out and put some steel back into you. Game had gone - which can happen to anyone - but he knew what was needed and how to sort it.
FWIW I reckon you'll win comfortably next week.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Credit to Poching I'd say. We (Leeds) completed well, kicked well and moved the ball wide quick first half, taking advantage of a threequarter line defending uncertainly. In the half time break he got your defence straightened out and put some steel back into you. Game had gone - which can happen to anyone - but he knew what was needed and how to sort it.
FWIW I reckon you'll win comfortably next week.'"
Or another way to look at it was that two second row forwards in the centres was a bad idea! I've said elsewhere that Leeds played good fast rugby, which they did, because we were woefully slow on the flanks and left wingers exposed.
WP did somehow do something in the SH but the damage was done.
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| Quote ="vastman"Don't agree with that tbh. Leeds played the same in both halves and were never more than ordinary. We bossed the SH and showed that we can play decent RL.
However, until our players finally realise that you cannot play only half a game, especially only a second-half we won't beat anyone. This is not new either it's been a recurring issue since 2019! It cost Chester his job and it will cost Poaching unless he roots it out.
I think the last time I saw us get into a team from the start was against Hudds last year and even then we tailed off at the end. However, the damage was done by then and Hudds couldn't come back. Yet for some reason we now seem to be trying to win games after giving teams a start when we need to start at minute one, not minute 35.
I'm no coach and I have no idea how to rectify it, but I like most on here can see it as clear as day and I'm certain WP can.'"
Think your hard on W Poaching in fact I would go as far as to say it shows how bad Chester was at building a team and Coaching Think we can see that we are much fitter at the beginning of the season than we have been for a long time.As said Chesters new signings are the same play one game have 4 off that as been excepted over the last 3 year . Poaching as been left with little of the budget for new players and yet they look far better than most of the players that Chester had brought in over the last 3 year .Poaching is a coach that does not turn a 2 week injury into a 5 week plus injury by bringing the players back too soon . Think fans should lay of W Poaching till he as had time to put is mark on the Team .because I have already seen more positive than negative this season than in the last three year
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| No budget for WP because the money for this season was spent by CC.
What a bloody crazy situation.
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| Quote ="1315trinity"[uOr another way to look at it was that two second row forwards in the centres was a bad idea[/u! I've said elsewhere that Leeds played good fast rugby, which they did, because we were woefully slow on the flanks and left wingers exposed.
WP did somehow do something in the SH but the damage was done.'"
What choice did we have?
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| Quote ="phe13"What choice did we have?'"
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Croft?'"
He was 18th man, but he hasn't played much rugby recently and WP must have had his reasons for playing Batch and Pittsy. Think both our centres were 'hung out to dry' last night, especially by their team-mates in not assisting in covering across and in this respect the loss of Milky early doors didn't help, as this is something he excels at.
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| Rob Butler ex London Broncos playing in the reserves at Warrington worth a short term loan deal?
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| Quote ="phe13"He was 18th man, but he hasn't played much rugby recently and WP must have had his reasons for playing Batch and Pittsy. Think both our centres were 'hung out to dry' last night, especially by their team-mates in not assisting in covering across and in this respect the loss of Milky early doors didn't help, as this is something he excels at.'"
He was still an option, or 'choice'. Understand the reasoning for Pitts to play by the side of Murphy. Young lad on his debut with an old head on his inside, it just didn't work out. For some reason it threw the whole teams defensive structure into disarray and with one or two quick cut out passes, we had a four on two on both sides of the pitch.
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| Quote ="asmadasa"Rob Butler ex London Broncos playing in the reserves at Warrington worth a short term loan deal?'"
No why on earth would we?
Hall, Lyne and a few others will be back in contention by next week or the week after.
I’m with WP on this, why have an academy if you won’t use them. Especially to just bring in some bit part player.
If we were suffering a major long term injury crisis then maybe but for me that’s an unnecessarily premature and panicky move,
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Awful evening, with very few positives and the 2 late scores really flattered us.
Leeds completely exposed our new "centre partnership" and we never recovered.
Remembering that Leeds hadn't managed a win prior to last nights game, we were awful.
=#FF0000At least there was a bulb in the gents at the back of the North Stand'"
That's where the missing LED from the Donny Road corner floodlight pylon went then!!!
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| It’s no criticism of players like Aydin who is really promising or Arona or Fifita.
Before too many games have come and gone I just think Trinity need more grunt, experience and size at prop. Opposition will just roll over the top of Trinity with a decent pack and Trinity won’t be able to compete.
Butler is out of contract at the end of this season and has a fair bit of SL experience….
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| I'd be quite happy to see how the team we have progresses. No need for panic buying.
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| Hope the Trinity pack can dominate SL opposition this season but the second half performance was more because Leeds were back in first gear as the game was already won.
I don’t see it as ‘panic buying’ more a ‘nothing to lose’ 4 week loan with a player that’s got something to prove in SL…
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd be quite happy to see how the team we have progresses. No need for panic buying.'"
yes, just buy some glue for Battyes hands
have you watched the game yet you'll get a good close up how clumsy he was this time on in front of the try line
while the first half of the game has traumatised me I'm not in panic mode yet
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| Quote ="phe13"He was 18th man, but he hasn't played much rugby recently and WP must have had his reasons for playing Batch and Pittsy. Think both our centres were 'hung out to dry' last night, especially by their team-mates in not assisting in covering across and in this respect the loss of Milky early doors didn't help, as this is something he excels at.'"
I couldn’t understand why we had Batch at Left centre who has always played right SR or Centre and also Pitts who’s never played centre play there….
Why not put batch right centre where he’s had 2 good games this season and Ashurst who is used to the left in the left or even Jowitt to left centre and Butterworth to full back.
There were what I would consider better options.
We very much lost due to the centres. They weren’t sliding and sometimes jamming in on leaving an option for Leeds to throw ball out for an overlap. Mostly it happened on the right and Murphy exposed to situations he shouldn’t have had to deal with had we defended the plays correctly.
The middles I thought were pretty good in defence.
We just couldn’t get possession in the opening 20 minutes and Leeds had a six again almost every set and a few penalties. Some of which justified and some a bit harsh imo.
Hall and Lyne back and we will look completely different. I expect us to give Toulouse a hiding.
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| we could learn a lot from Whinos' "basic rugby league" play during the first half. They played fast, flowing rugby moving the ball along the line from wing to wing and advancing up the field together as a singular force. This resulted in 30 points and ultimately proved a winner. At too many times we were playing one man attacking up the middle a la Chris Chester style. If we could only adopt the simple, basic style of play that Leeds did we would win more than we would lose.
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| Just read the BBC Sports match report on their Rugby League web site. According to their report Walker was at full back for Trinity. I wonder if Jowitt noticed that he hadn't been playing. Typical Beeb!!!!!
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| Quote ="Redscat"we could learn a lot from Whinos' "basic rugby league" play during the first half. They played fast, flowing rugby moving the ball along the line from wing to wing and advancing up the field together as a singular force. This resulted in 30 points and ultimately proved a winner. At too many times we were playing one man attacking up the middle a la Chris Chester style. If we could only adopt the simple, basic style of play that Leeds did we would win more than we would lose.'" . We have played the the simple basic style that Leeds play in the first 3 games and gone well .There was only T J playing last night who would be in the first pick three-quarters line .There is a bit of difference between having Lynn and Hurst in the centre and two forwards one who is 32 years old Take into account that Miller went off after 3 minutes and you can see why we could play no were like we have done in the first 3 games .The problem also was that that the two forwards in the had been playing well in the pack so it made us weaker there as well When Tupo comes back into the team I would put him on the wing and leave Hurst in the
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| Quote ="alegend". We have played the the simple basic style that Leeds play in the first 3 games and gone well .There was only T J playing last night who would be in the first pick three-quarters line .There is a bit of difference between having Lynn and Hurst in the centre and two forwards one who is 32 years old Take into account that Miller went off after 3 minutes and you can see why we could play no were like we have done in the first 3 games .The problem also was that that the two forwards in the Centre had been playing well in the pack so it made us weaker there as well When Tupo comes back into the team I would put him on the wing and leave Hurst in the Centre'"
Think you mean Corey Hall ! and lets be honest do you really think the old Tupou we know will make the full comeback we expect are asking alot its time we faced up to reality and negotiated a pay off deal, its only holding the club back in the long run , we did'nt try to sign Langi for no reason.
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| Quote ="alegend". We have played the the simple basic style that Leeds play in the first 3 games and gone well .There was only T J playing last night who would be in the first pick three-quarters line .There is a bit of difference between having Lynn and Hurst in the centre and two forwards one who is 32 years old Take into account that Miller went off after 3 minutes and you can see why we could play no were like we have done in the first 3 games .[uThe problem also was that that the two forwards in the Centre had been playing well in the pack so it made us weaker there as well When Tupo comes back into the team I would put him on the wing and leave Hurst in the Centre[/u'"
That's a very fair comment about weakening the pack, but do you seriously think Topou will get back in the side if he ever gets better, don't really see any room for him in the three quarters tbh.
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