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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"JM said that the club received an apology today from Sky Sports relating to the "tone adopted" during the previously mentioned report.'"
You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’
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| Quote ="vastman"You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’'"
Is he going to be punching him while he says it
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| IN[/fimg Quote ="PopTart"Is he going to be punching him while he says it'"
PT I would pay to see that
In truth I have used the quote out of context but it seemed apt.
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| Quote ="vastman"You know why this is.
It’s not because of Marks age or experience its pure snobbery.
If Mark had been a great player and thus famous they would be lording him now.
Sadly Mark was a fairly obscure player even to Trinity fans so his name carries no kudos
I hope in a years time Mash can stand in front of those Sky cameras and face down cheap shot merchants like Wilkins and say to them, as the great Ali did, ‘what’s my name!’'"
Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.'"
Just as Peet and Smith have done at Wigan and Leeds, it's up to MA and Trinity to, once again, prove the doubters wrong.
Mind you, Wilkin's comments were massively disrespectful, especially as he will have played against Applegarth in SL, shocking
Basically, it shows just how poor Wilkin's knowledge is.
I had to smile when he was talking about players "diving" too.
It wasn't so long ago when Trinity were playing Saints at BV, that Wilkin was doing an excellent dying swan act, only to jump to his feet as soon as the penalty was awarded against Trinity.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Neither Peet nor Rohan Smith and even Christian Woolf had any playing career to speak of. Wilkins comments attitude was total in keeping with his anti Wakefield stance. It has backfired a bit on him and Brookes this time.'"
I agree, but had he been a name, especially from a 'big' club it would have been more mooted, he wouldn't be so vocal IMO. Wilkin was a cheap shot player we all know that, so no surprise he's now the schoolyard bully.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Not wanting to be controversial but I like Wilkin as a pundit
I don't find him anti Wakefield, he just doesn't sugar coat our issues.
Saying that, he made himself look a bit stupid yesterday by not doing his homework.
I guess he was trying to say he isn't a well known coach but ultimately, there is enough info on him to be able to tell people who he is'"
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| In all of this we've kinda forgot that we have to get someone in to take over Marks previous roles!
Head of Youth Performance, Academy\Reserves head coach, first team assistant coach, anything else the bloke didn't do?!
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| Quote ="charlie"In all of this we've kinda forgot that we have to get someone in to take over Marks previous roles!
Head of Youth Performance, Academy\Reserves head coach, first team assistant coach, anything else the bloke didn't do?!'"
He's got Pitts and Field already in there, wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Arona stay on in some role. I'm sure he intimated he wanted to go into coaching and unlike Dave I've heard no reference to him going home (might be wrong on that).
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| Quote ="vastman"He's got Pitts and Field already in there, wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Arona stay on in some role. I'm sure he intimated he wanted to go into coaching and unlike Dave I've heard no reference to him going home (might be wrong on that).'"
Shook Tinni's hand at the grab a piece of turf morning, and asked him if was going home, he said he was hanging around for a while.
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| Quote ="charlie"In all of this we've kinda forgot that we have to get someone in to take over Marks previous roles!
Head of Youth Performance, Academy\Reserves head coach, first team assistant coach, anything else the bloke didn't do?!'"
To be fair pitts as been coach of academy all season mash just at every game lol,but you aint mentioned college where his team where undefeated and won league.he will be a miss to those things though even college dont forget its collage where hr got batch from
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| Quote ="vastman"He's got Pitts and Field already in there, wouldn't surprise me in the least to see Arona stay on in some role. I'm sure he intimated he wanted to go into coaching and unlike Dave I've heard no reference to him going home (might be wrong on that).'"
Not sure what arona is doing maybe things will change now but jai Whitbread is replacing arona on academy side of things
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Shook Tinni's hand at the grab a piece of turf morning, and asked him if was going home, he said he was hanging around for a while.'"
I hope he does stay at club in some capacity my lad learnt so much of him,but id love and think now a good time to get kirmo back and another name im gonna put out there who is really good at what he does and could maybe do more than he currdoes steve Abraham
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| Jenna was gushing over leeds head coach , I didn't see an apology on tonight's show , did I miss it?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"I hope he does stay at club in some capacity my lad learnt so much of him,but id love and think now a good time to get kirmo back and another name im gonna put out there who is really good at what he does and could maybe do more than he currdoes steve Abraham'"
Tinni hasn't actually said he is retiring has he? Wouldn't be shocked if he played on in the championship next year. Also Kirmo is possibly playing on next year and now has other business interests outside the game to keep him busy so doubt he'd be an option.
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| It was not Arona’s decision to leave Wakefield it was the club who decided for him. I guess it is up to him if he goes home or stays and plays elsewhere. To avoid being accused of making it up this was stated by WP in an article prior to his own removal.
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| The only connection between Peet and MA is that they were both promoted from their respective club’s academy coaching set up. The problem is that Peet has the Wigan squad and infrastructure to work with MA does not therefore you cannot assume what one did the other will be able to duplicate. This is where the club step in to provide the funds for squad strengthening and quality. I don’t expect a Wigan but what about a Salford, Hull KR or Castleford.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The only connection between Peet and MA is that they were both promoted from their respective club’s academy coaching set up. [uThe problem is that Peet has the Wigan squad and infrastructure to work with MA does not therefore you cannot assume what one did the other will be able to duplicate.[/u This is where the club step in to provide the funds for squad strengthening and quality. I don’t expect a Wigan but what about a Salford, Hull KR or Castleford.'"
What exactly has MA got to work with then?
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| Quote ="chissitt"What exactly has MA got to work with then?'"
There is only one difference, the playing budget they had in the past and will have in the foreseeable future. The rest is identical but he will ignore facts.
We have a fully funded Academy so do Wigan.
To gain that we have to run it at the same level they do FACT.
Same coaching levels, same support staff, same facility levels. Please note Pimp, the Wigan academy do not train or play at the JJB as far as I know.
All pathways are identical.
Finally there is now a pathway to the reserves at Trinity. Our reserves play Wigan reserves this weekend in the reserve final.
So as you rightly ask, where is the difference?
I can only think of one other that is different. Applegarth has done the same as Peet but with less money and more importantly far less club prestige, both of which attract young players, I’d call that a truly massive achievement and an enormous plus for a club like us but rhubarb, sorry pimp won’t get that as he’s to busy hunting negatives.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"The only connection between Peet and MA is that they were both promoted from their respective club’s academy coaching set up. The problem is that Peet has the Wigan squad and infrastructure to work with MA does not therefore you cannot assume what one did the other will be able to duplicate. This is where the club step in to provide the funds for squad strengthening and quality. I don’t expect a Wigan but what about a Salford, Hull KR or Castleford.'"
Got a feeling that this board will not be stepping in with cash, It will buy cheep ,Do not think they realise how much quality as left the club this season
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| Quote ="vastman"There is only one difference, the playing budget they had in the past and will have in the foreseeable future. The rest is identical but he will ignore facts.
We have a fully funded Academy so do Wigan.
To gain that we have to run it at the same level they do FACT.
Same coaching levels, same support staff, same facility levels. Please note Pimp, the Wigan academy do not train or play at the JJB as far as I know.
All pathways are identical.
Finally there is now a pathway to the reserves at Trinity. Our reserves play Wigan reserves this weekend in the reserve final.
So as you rightly ask, where is the difference?
I can only think of one other that is different. Applegarth has done the same as Peet but with less money and more importantly far less club prestige, both of which attract young players, I’d call that a truly massive achievement and an enormous plus for a club like us but rhubarb, sorry pimp won’t get that as he’s to busy hunting negatives.'"
I pretty sure that isn't true. There are many things different between Wigan and us apart from playing budget.
That seems really obvious to me so I'm thinking I'm misunderstanding what you meant.
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| Quote ="lifelongfan"Shook Tinni's hand at the grab a piece of turf morning, and asked him if was going home, he said he was hanging around for a while.'"
He is in the Cook Islands squad for the World Cup is he not?
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| Quote ="alegend"Got a feeling that this board will not be stepping in with cash, It will buy cheep ,Do not think they realise how much quality as left the club this season'"
Why do people like you and this time I am having a bit of a go at you, seem to think they can spot what the BOD can’t. Why do some fans think that highly intelligent people who unlike the rest of us know every detail of the club somehow don’t know the true situation way better than any of us. Sorry but it’s a bit arrogant don’t you think?
As a fan I think that within reason you can say what you want about the team, players, coaches and tactics because you can see them, it’s an opinion based on how you see it.
But you and me and the cohort of in the knows on here have no real idea of the clubs plans for the season so why make wild assumptions based on nothing.
FYI the only clue given was by JM in his interview earlier in the week. Five major signings to come, whilst pointing out that a further three had already arrived at the end of last season in the form of Butler, Bowden and NRL back Taufua but of course that will be conveniently forgotten by fans.
Of the further five signings three have the potential to be overseas players. That to me is a huge potential to replace what we have lost.
Finally and something that these days seems to be totally ignored by supporters is promoted players. If we re-sign Shaw for example that is a signing! Shaw is a sort after player I can assure you and a number of clubs have an interest. For us to keep him will require a fair chunk of our player budget. I’ll put it in perspective, we are not talking minimum wage here, from what I hear a player like Shaw can command 30-40k, not peanuts. You cannot promote good youngsters on the cheap, Shaw will cost and if Eseh is half the player I think he is the money will be astronomical.
Our BOD are imo shrewd men. Keep it tight for now and splash the cash when it really matters. You want to build a team it’s the Eseh and Shaws you do it with and when they come good you want to be able to compete, always our biggest failure in the past.
We have to think long term. For now we consolidate and improve gradually. It’s not exciting but despite what people think big name signings don’t attract fans. Positive momentum does and that is what I believe we will get in the next few years both on and off the field.
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