Been released by 'mutual consent'. I guess we must have giving some form of pay off, doubt he will have walked for nothing.

In the current economic climate, we are doing well to realise any transfer fees for the players that we have sold.
Even though there is undoubted quality in the likes of Poore, Charlie, T.Smith and Aiton, it's quite unusual for teams to pay transfer fees.
Does this mean that the respective new clubs feel that they have each got a bargain ?

And also players we haven't paid a transfer fee for, so it could be argued turning £0 into £200k plus is something of a business success in the present climate and our present situation.
I'll add the caveat that i'd prefer to not be in such a situation but we are where we are and for the reasons we are, best to make a positive out of it though.

I don't know if im happy or not.
Hes been paid for not doing anything for two years so a pay off is nothing out of the ordinary but when he's played i've seen a bit of something in him that might have benefited us this season.
Hey ho!

He wasn't the worst player to have pulled on the shirt thats for sure its just he wasn't worth the reported near 100K he was given. That wasn't his fault though, he was hardly going to offer to take less! If we'd have been paying him 30-40K he'd have been a decent guy to keep around the squad. I imagine he has fixed himself up with something back home and we are paying the difference.

Couldn't fault his effort but was shocking in defense. Being a local lad gave him a bit of a teflon coating. Probably had his best game for us in that last match v Cas where he came in off his wing as part of a game plan rather than on his own initiative.

I haven't seen anything official to say Kay or Mellars have gone?
Is it an RLFans fact or really a fact?

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I'm not uncomfortable with that wing spot opening up and it could be Reece Lyne who takes the jumper; we were also linked with Will Sharpe before the shiz hit the fan, so that might come back to life.

Either way, our game plan will have to change - there aren't many wingers who can carry out of your own 20 like Fox and Cockayne, whatever their shortcomings elsewhere, and Ben in particular was able to steal metres in that situation due to his speed, toughness and refusal to die easily with the ball. I don't think Lyne has that in him.

Best of luck to Ben - he certainly changed my view and on a personal level, has been a friend to our junior club, which has been very helpful.

ben has being great for us,
thanks for all your efforts ben and good luck in the future

I do think it's a decent deal if you got a fee - I don't think he's at a point in his career where he will get better (29, is he?) But, he was OK, and always put a shift in.

Have to say tho, the last game of the season, I had to respect Lauititi having a crack and a wind up with the Cas fans - he loved being the pantomime villain, and I think it's awesome when players get involved with the banter and give a bit back, or even a bit to work with! ....Contrast to Cockayne, who decided the best way to respond to some stick was by spitting at us...

They are very different types of people so tough to compare their integrity and "social skills" but equally, I'm always baffled when fans have what they call banter with players, that in any other walk of life would be agressive and disrespectful behaviour, and then complain wen a player reacts.

In terms of personality, I would suggest Lauitiiti and Cockayne are polar opposites so their varying reactions to stick isn't really that surprising.

Ben has been on my facebook group this morning to thank the fans which was decent of him

The club have said on there facebook feed that Vince is in rehab with his injury which has lead to him leaving by mutal consent

Thanks
The Mellars part is good news for all I think. Kay I would progress but all depends whether he and Wakefield can agree his worth.

if it were abuse I'd say so - I've no time for that in rugby league cause I'd do anything to be out there playing Super League, even if it was for Wakefield.

And I aren't complaining - it was only himself he made look a doilem. There are better ways to have a go back than spitting, how about coring tries like Ali did? that shut us up



Chanting "gypppooooo" at someone coming off is hardly something you'd cover your kids ears for.

Likewise, if Ali were getting genuinely abused he wouldn't have been joining in.

I thought the atmosphere was cracking TBH

Whilst it's hard to argue with your sentiments regarding junior development, we are always going to be a "selling" club.
What we have to do, is produce more good quality young players and we will then, either be rewarded by their services on the pitch or, paid handsomely by other clubs to secure their services.
Personally (and I risk some flack with this comment), I don't think we are producing enough good players of SL standard and if and when we are back on our feet, this area should be given plenty of priority.
We chop and change our academy and junior coaches on an extremely regular basis when, what we need are top quality junior coaches who can bring the guys through to SL standard.
Wigan are the shining light in this area and they are "happy" to move their youngsters on, or develop them and make a killing in the transfer market (the Tomkins brothers and Farrell would be good examples of this).

I think you're on thin ice suggesting that Cas fans were engaging in a bit of harmless banter; you do, I'm sure, recall the disgusting abuse meted out to Richie Mathers at both home and away fixtures? Chanting "Richie Mathers is a **** can hardly be described as banter.

And qasn't it the case that Ben spat on the floor in the direction of those chanting, rather than 'at' them?

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No flak from me. A few exceptions have gone on to disprove the rule but the waste of talent this club goes through is ridiculous. We spend time and money developing them but give them no or extremely limited game time to take them onto the next level. Successive coaches have shown they'd rather play a poor but experienced import or use seasoned pro playing woefully out of position. The licesenng period was the ideal time to battle harden some of the kids but Trinity failed to utilise it.

the major worry, which some people seem to missing is that we are not in a position to bring anyone better in.

with every loss of a player our team is becoming poorer and poorer (no pun)

I have joined the doom squad now.

I think the argument is that we probably can because the players released were on vastly inflated contracts.

I agree Ali handled it well and Ben's responce (though I didn't see it) was not good, but either way he wasn't the instigator.
And the word you use may be offensive to some, even if only to the travelling community that don't want to be linked with BC. It's clearly not meant as a compliment.

of course it isn't a compliment, although I do believe that you get what you give and vice versa really. Whether he instigated it or not is irrelevant.

Ali for example was genuinely having a good crack with us, I know because I was in the middle of it and it was anything but offensive.

As for Bren's comments, I can't argue that those kind of chants are poor form (although neither can I argue that Richie Mathers isn't ...one

) but it's tit for tat. I don't think either of us can take the moral high-ground with regard to any of that... I just think spitting at/towards/in gesture to anyone is a terrible reaction from a "pro"

Spitting at anyone is disgusting whether it hits them or not.

Anyway, if Wakefield made money out of his move, it's very good business.

Not if we are running with a significantly reduced salary cap.

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Apologies - I should have made more judicious use of the * key.

I agree though - not at all a good word to use; his wife and daughter were near me at the time, and they agreed.