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| Quote ="TimmySmith"Does anyone know how much a season ticket is?
Can't wait for Rugby to return.'"
Looking forward to it after getting over last night, didn’t get a season ticket this season but getting one next.
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| Quote ="PopTart"1) for IMG we need to stay above 3000 to keep the score we have now. So actually it's better to decrease capacity and get a better percentage and higher utilisation of the East Stand in the short term.
2) it would take so much money to do the West enough to attract crowds, you may as well just buy a load of season tickets yourself and count them on your attendance
3) if you were going to invest in fans you'd do the back off the North Stand first in my opinion.'"
That's covered in the IMG rules. You can't artificially close parts of the ground to score extra points.
It was specifically stated as Hudds suggested they would do that and were busted.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"It’s all about points and our submission is just one of many. We first have to now score higher than the 12 SL clubs and then hope that we are the best in the Championship if one of these fails.
In his interview he hopes which appears to be all we have is hope and belief that the supporters will keep turning up if they build it.'"
We know we score more than, for example Cas, on facilities. We also know exactly how many points they score above us for league placings.
Our Foundation is bigger. Media? Hard to know without the real data, but won't be wildly different.
The attendance points boundary is 3000 (which is why Carter/Minards are quoting that figure).
The maths are fairly straight forward for us - maintain a 3k average attendance and perform on the field.
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| Most of our scores we already know.
The flexible ones we can improve on at performance, winning the GF is a bonus no one else around us has and income outside the central funding, which is where the money tree on the east of the pitch comes in. Making that work is a big advantage.
Add in community trust stuff though I don't know the numbers on that.
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| I’m sure you’ll enjoy the Championship, it’s probably more exciting than SL in terms of competitiveness. After years of making up the numbers in SL I would expect Wakefield to be amongst the top 6 if you recruit the right calibre of player.
The standard of refereeing can be pretty abysmal but it’s generally swings and roundabouts. Look forward to reigniting the rivalry between Bradford and Wakey!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I’m sure you’ll enjoy the Championship, it’s probably more exciting than SL in terms of competitiveness. After years of making up the numbers in SL I would expect Wakefield to be amongst the top 6 if you recruit the right calibre of player.
The standard of refereeing can be pretty abysmal but it’s generally swings and roundabouts. Look forward to reigniting the rivalry between Bradford and Wakey!'"
How do you think you'll go with the IMG scoring Bully?
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| Quote ="Egg Banjo"Gonna be some pee'd off people who have paid through the commit 6 if that's the case'"
I pay commit 6 have in the past won the jackpot and numerous prizes I like the scheme and get my season pass pretty cheap and spread over 12 months.
I guess you are not in it. That's your choice as is following the club, there plenty of others to follow if you are so dejected about Trinity
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| Quote ="PopTart"How do you think you'll go with the IMG scoring Bully?'"
I'll be honest, I've not really looked too deeply into it. Expect we'll be strong in some areas and lacking in others such as the stadium. The club does seem to be finally taking steps back in the right direction, getting Glenn Morrison in as academy coach is a coup for a Championship club.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'll be honest, I've not really looked too deeply into it. Expect we'll be strong in some areas and lacking in others such as the stadium. The club does seem to be finally taking steps back in the right direction, getting Glenn Morrison in as academy coach is a coup for a Championship club.'"
Glenn Morrison the guy who played for us both?
That is a coup.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'll be honest, I've not really looked too deeply into it. Expect we'll be strong in some areas and lacking in others such as the stadium. The club does seem to be finally taking steps back in the right direction, getting Glenn Morrison in as academy coach is a coup for a Championship club.'"
I may need to read the IMG doc again, but I missed the bit where you get points for having Glenn Morrison coach your kids
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| Quote ="dboy"I may need to read the IMG doc again, but I missed the bit where you get points for having Glenn Morrison coach your kids
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I'd have taken him at our club.
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| I guess we will see how serious they are when they announce the list of players for next season. We will also have an indication if we believe this will help them reach their goal of 3000 supporters.
The initial indication of a squad of 25 players including short term loans and dual registration is not a good start but we will see.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess we will see how serious they are when they announce the list of players for next season. We will also have an indication if we believe this will help them reach their goal of 3000 supporters.
The initial indication of a squad of 25 players including short term loans and dual registration is not a good start but we will see.'"
I'm pretty sure he said he has about 15 committed and wants to get to 22 and then utilise the loan and dual registration system.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'm pretty sure he said he has about 15 committed and wants to get to 22 and then utilise the loan and dual registration system.'"
And run a full time academy.
There’s a number of players who may be worth a look without SL deals who could do a good job in the championship.
Imo priority players would be Kershaw, Croft (to sort our left edge out for next season).
I’m hoping Pratt is signed up as he’s showing promise at York playing centre and wing. Another offseason could see him more ready.
I’d try tempt Tanginoa so we could run a SR of Griffin/Tanginoa that could be deadly in the championship. Assuming Tanginoa is fit and hopefully wants to stick by the club who’s stick by him this season but seen little benefit.
Not sure ion the rest. Maybe Bowden who would offer more in championship and be an experienced prop.
There may be a few decent championship players knocking about worth a look. Maybe some young championship lads who would like to go full time.
I’m excited to see how we build a team for next season.
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| Tanginoa would be in the 'maybe' column for me. His fitness has cost us this year and we can't afford to carry anyone.
But clearly he'd be a massive asset if he stayed.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess we will see how serious they are when they announce the list of players for next season. We will also have an indication if we believe this will help them reach their goal of 3000 supporters.
The initial indication of a squad of 25 players including short term loans and dual registration is not a good start but we will see.'"
Got a feeling the better players will be leaving and we will be left with the weaker older players. IF we keep same so called Coach and the players way past there sale date, can see it been a struggle to get to 3,000 supporters .The true fans have just seen one of the worst team at Wakefield ,the worst coach , The same fans did not asked for there money back when Covid came ,Mr Carter said it saved the club, How much more does this club expected from the fans with nothing back on the field to watch
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess we will see how serious they are when they announce the list of players for next season. We will also have an indication if we believe this will help them reach their goal of 3000 supporters.
The initial indication of a squad of 25 players including short term loans and dual registration is not a good start but we will see.'"
Carter didn't say short term loan deals.
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| Quote ="PopTart"I'd have taken him at our club.'"
No issue or argument with that sentiment, but in relation to IMG grading, it is irrelevant.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I guess we will see how serious they are when they announce the list of players for next season. We will also have an indication if we believe this will help them reach their goal of 3000 supporters.
The initial indication of a squad of 25 players including short term loans and dual registration is not a good start but we will see.'"
Carter is in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks / hopes 3000 hardcore fans will turn up next year whilst in the same breath talking about using dual reg players. Just think about that for a moment. “We will be running a thread bare squad with a revolving door loan system to change the team every week just like this year and we still want you all to pay £27 to watch Dewsbury”.
The only way to get 3000 fans next year is to procure and operate a super league quality team with established player names. Similar to what Leigh have done - SL calibre player and SL calibre coach in the Championship. I’m convinced it’s the only way.
JM can’t be playing Moneyball with everything and fully control his ability to generate a first class product on the field that is worth paying for by the fans. Worth pointing out that the away fans won’t travel to see dross either - if we have something to watch, they will come. Otherwise, put simply, they won’t.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Tanginoa would be in the 'maybe' column for me. His fitness has cost us this year and we can't afford to carry anyone.
But clearly he'd be a massive asset if he stayed.'"
Agreed. Was really selfish of him to break his arm.
But seriously, I’d actually sell him if he is not already null and void. On balance, hasn’t been on the field enough in 4 years.
Saying that he’d probably be a worldy at another uk team but just not done it for us.
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| Quote ="BackSeatCoach"Agreed. Was really selfish of him to break his arm.
But seriously, I’d actually sell him if he is not already null and void. On balance, hasn’t been on the field enough in 4 years.
Saying that he’d probably be a worldy at another uk team but just not done it for us.'"
I didn't say it was his fault but he was out for the whole season and that cost us.
If he's fit then great. But he has to be fit.
He'll be what we need in Championship but I'd have Griffin and Pitts with Tanginoa coming off the bench.
But he'll be a free agent now so who knows.
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But he'll be a free agent now so who knows.'"
Crying shame. I would doubt that his salary level would fit in with the JM Moneyball approach. Interesting to see where he will go because a lot of clubs have already committed their quota. Wigan wanted him at one point but they are committed, and Warrington.
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| Tanginoa was outstanding at Leigh, his work rate, carries, metres, defence and his threat to the Leigh defensive line was something we’ve sadly missed. Like a couple of others have said, if there’s a way to keep him he’ll be a weapon in the Championship.
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| I'd keep Jowitt, Kershaw, Pratt, Law, Croft and maybe Senior.
Dagger a definite yes
I assume Reece will retire not sure.
I'd keep Langi if his contract was appropriate but if he's dropping down a league I assume he'll do that in France.
I'm not overjoyed at Lino signing but it might work in a slower league. Gale I like but he's in twilight so it worries me if we only have these two.
Bowden I'd definitely keep as I would Whitbread of course but both are likely to have offers.
Battye not sure
Atoni and Proctor a firm no.
Not sure if Shaw and Windrow are ready. Would be nice if they were
Eseh will have offers I'm sure.
Pitts and Kay already signed
Ashurst is a maybe. Really have to have some younger blood
Crowther future is unclear but I assume he's leaving
Tanginoa and Griffin a yes (I've changed my maybe on Kelepi now)
Hooker is a dilemma. I'd prefer this to be our big signing but I think we've already signed Hood.
Because of this Bowes is a maybe
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| Quote ="dboy"No issue or argument with that sentiment, but in relation to IMG grading, it is irrelevant.'"
Similar to your reply to my post. I said I hadn't looked too deeply at the grading criteria and was making a general comment about our progress as a club.
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