Ashurst has another two years despite not hitting anywhere near the form he showed a few years ago. This is despite having Tanginoa to play SR a player the club were going to “build the pack around” last season. I like Tanginoa but he’s lost his mojo just driving it in constantly at prop. We had on our hands one of the best and most exciting SR in the comp and we’ve ruined him turning him into an average prop. I’m not sure if we put him back he’d be able to reproduce his barnstorming runs and MOTM performances he used to. It’s sad.

The justification of giving him a new contract according to MC, is because there is no-one out there any better, they were his words in the last but one zoom meeting.

Agree 100% our best player is playing out of postion all because certain players have to play because they can do no wrong add to thiswhen playing sr kelepi can do full 80 mins playing at prop he doesnt wouldit not be best to have our best player outthere in his best postion for 80 mins.matty ashurst has been superb for theclub but sadly age as caught up performances are average injuries setting in and he gets a 2 year deal.

But yet according to the coach Ashurst is a massive player for us, the glue that holds everything together, etc, etc. I would prefer Kelepi in the back row, but I don't mind him at prop, but as with a few others' this season, he just appears to have gone backwards, in fact I can't think of anybody who's now better than than they were 2 or 3 years ago! Apart from Kershaw.

After 60 year, I’ve completely given up interest. Didn’t even listen. You knew what would happen. Four tries by wingers, what a shock.
If MC etc have business brains I can’t see them, as an alleged two year contract extension is the kiss of death,

Im no fan of kershaw but i have to agree...like with ashurst there others who our coach says is vital to us non more so than miller but when was last run of good games he had

No one knows, least of all the coach

No one better as a RL coach, yes man or golfing partner.

If they think he is the best we can do it does not bode well for our ambitions for next season. I wonder if they are taking this stance so not to be seen caving into the supporters who have been critical of his continuing employment because there is no justification to extending his contract.

It is definitely time for a change.

Carter's loyalty to Chester has been admiral, but to what cost?

It is said that Carter went a long way into saving the club back in 2013, I don't think any on here, will truly know how much we were in debt for, and as what lengths Carter went to save us.

The business nous was questioned on here, on a previous page, wasn't Carter on the board, and investing money before taking over. If so, I would guess he would have attended board meetings, and be privvy as to what was happening finance wise beforehand. Why did he not speak up beforehand.

They do say, love is blind, but I think this has gone too far now, and sadly, we are heading one way, and fast, and what Carter did, has been mainly for a stay of execution.

We can blame injuries and COVID until the cows come home, but all teams are in the same boat.

For me, an ageing team, especially in the forwards, giving us no go forward at all, coupled up with a poor coaching team, primarily, is where the problems lie.

As for fitness, do they put the same hours in, as other super league clubs?

Need some younger forwards, who might just be fitter and hungrier than what we currently have. It may be the difference as to how and where we turn the ball over

Really.

How hard has he looked, if at all

Perhaps all 3

2 pages later and not ONE person has questioned/asked Mopsey what Ryan has told him. What splits in the team/camp. Don't start saying you can't break a confidence, you made the claim.

As for the game, terrible left edge - professional players shouldn't make those mistakes = Not the coaches fault

Rocky and I believe Tanganoa ( hard to tell from my seat in the stand) knocking on together from a drop out = not coaches fault

Appalling attack on the line and my god we had enough chances to score 30+ points = coaches fault

Oddly, I was sat around quite a lot of people ( 40+ in age) who actually didn't blame Chester 1 bit despite these forums claims.

Summary, I would replace CC IF the right coach came along. Also, Pitts and Kay our MOM. Kay for me replaces one of Miller and Lino when Wood is fit. He looks bright, keen and makes really good meters

Sorry for the pitchside view, easier to analyse view Radio Leeds

Stick to posting at 2.45 in the morning when you’ve had a few and think your hard, while your at it read my post again, it’s saying the supporters are split and it’s basically creating arguments and bad feeling amongst themselves and how can it be rectified. Personally I don’t talk to Ryan about rugby and like I’ve said in the post the team as tried and the effort as been there in every match but if you would like to go ask Ryan yourself then he’s a lovely polite lad that is if you can summon up some bottle to come out of hiding behind your screen mr keyboard warrior.

Haha think I'm hard, get a grip and act your age! You said....there’s splits all over the place in some cases.

ALL over the place.. your words, not mine. Stop being a bitter old man and FYI ( that means for your information) I work nights, that's why most of my post are late. I'd suggest stop being a keyboard warrior and making false presumptions, just makes you look like bitter.

You come across as someone who's gravy train has been halted by the club, who's opinion no longer matters, or who has a massive hidden agenda.

IF you are right, and rugby league in this country is totally on its , I'd suggest enjoying it while you can!

It’s a bit difficult to enjoy it with our current performances and results don’t you think.

As for having a chat with Ryan. Anytime. I will talk to anyone about rugby, the game is in my blood, in fact my DNA. However, reading his last few Twitter retweets it sadly can't happen. He doesn't like masks and sadly I'm not prepared to meet someone, who is also a professional sportsman who is happy to place people in jeopardy. Sorry if that upsets you.

Ashurst isn’t the glue and hasn’t been for a couple of years. Couple of injuries and although he’s not a bad player by any stretch he’s just a decent option these days.

Tangi has gone backwards because he’s never been a prop. He’s playing out of position to accommodate Ashurst/Pitts a starting spot. I will say I’ve been happy with Pitts though on the right. I think Pitts, Lyne, Mason, Kershaw have been much more effective this season than their left counterparts especially in defence by far. Tanginoa produced numerous motm performances in SR and I just can’t fathom why he’s not back to SR with 4/5 props available. Reality is that I know the answer and it's because Ashurst will miss out.

Personally imho I would consider switching Ashurst to LF for 2022 and bang Tangi back where he belongs.

Since I wasn't born when we was actually good (I was born in 1981) I go to games with hope, last night was no different. Yes it was disappointing, but the effort couldn't be faulted, and if I try to get to games and they try to win, then I feel I'm getting 'some' value. I grew up around players, my uncle played for Cas very successfully until a TJ style injury ruined his career. Lived on the same street as Glancy and round the corner from Gaz Ellis. My father was a ref (grade 2 for the old school). I repeat, I go to games with hope, I know Rhino fans that stopped going because they knew they were going to win games and it was boring. Watching Wakey is never boring. It's sometimes a hard watch but it has been worse.

One last point. For me, the players are actually playing for Chester that much, they actually try too hard rather than stick to the basics.

These current players are light years ahead in term of nutrition , fitness ,training, player welfare from the Glancy , Mason era but IMO are no further ahead in ball skills or tactics than those predecessors who wore the shirt . Same could be said for a lot of teams in the current era ,Wigan as a prime example. Just take a look at the current NRL games to see how far behind we are on every level . I dont think we’ve come a long way playing wise from those early days whilst our antipodean rivals have gone meteoric in every aspect . The apathy of fans I talk to who have stopped watching the game is sad ,but until we and the RL get our houses in order there will be a continuous steady drain on our fan base .

I think that's overdoing it, but I don't think they aren't trying. The problem is they look uncoached rather than lacking effort

Trust it to be the first game of the season we have a problem when it's the first where away fans are allowed back with no TV broadcasts.



It's being looked into as it's not good enough but unfortunately there is nothing the two of us at the stadium can do as we aren't the tech wizards.

I agree with you for the most part, i'm just quoting what he said when Ashurst re-signed. I think part of the problem for me is, he appears to think it's still 2017 or 2018! He's obsessed with quoting I need my left edge fit and available etc, etc. Don't get me wrong, Tupou & TJ at their best makes us better, but we don't need Tom Johnstone to win games as was proven with our best spell winning those 3 games with Kay & Kershaw. We have 24 or 25 players good enough to step up and perform, we have good individuals, we just don't function well and often enough as a group/team, and over a period of more than 50 games, that has to come down to the coach.