Well said Bren2K, that is pretty much as i see it, though as much as sometimes i deplore SuperLeague, i aren't giving it up without a fight.

All very true!

The danger with going into administration is that once you begin tsuch a process you also open a clear path to liquidation! We all hope that some white knight will come along and snap up the club from the administrator but what if we are wrong?

Common sense at last, I think its your mates that need the reality check. I agree that Cas will be next up against the wall should trinity get the push this time, and for us traditional clubs there will be no way back.

Not 100% getting but thanks anyway

just re classifying land? As surely and new building on any land needs PP anyway? FWIW I expect NM will be passed eventually!

On other points elsewhere, for Oakwell to count then surely you'd have to have an agreement at least in principle for 2012-15. No point comparing Hull & Wigan as long leases purpose built and in their area. (Saints guaranteed new ground). Research would need to be done on crowds and impact in Barnsley area (may do this already of course).

Potential Admin would not be a reason to kick you out after Cru debacle, BUT it would remove your #1 fight against the RFL if it was to happen?

The reason Cru are staying is the RFL have a £700k charge now on the Racecourse Ground which was offered as security against money owing to themselves. They have also been given a 4 year guarantee of a franchise with £175k deducted from their sky moneys each year for the next 4 years.

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Disagree totally that Cas will be the next in line for the drop.
SL and RL need a SL club in the area.
Cas youth dev is excellent and will get better. Hopefully with a new stad the club and far higher turnover they will be able to keep their outstanding youngsters without bigger and wealthier clubs taking them.
Should Wakefield fall out of SL I do think it will give Cas greater access and influence over the best youngsters in the area.
Also i reckon that after one season Cas will average 10k crowds per home game.
Having written all that I really do hope Wakefield survive.
It will be a tragedy for all of RL if they fold and go out of business.

If the new sports village is going to cost 20 million including a new stadium at no cost to the club, why would any company investing such a huge amount sit back and allow the club to possibly go into administration reducing our chances of a super league franchise.

Taking into account the running costs for a new stadium alone, surely logic dictates that the club playing in super league is more financially viable than a club playing in the lower tier.

Is there more going on here than we are aware of?

Thats a very good point Gizmo, If Yorkcourt relistically need us more than we need them, allow the club go out of business cutting their chances of ever developing Newmarket into anything making their investment in the land there worthless?

Be careful, you may find that as time goes by and if the latest LDF goes through, Yorkcourt need WTWC less and less. Stranger things have happened in business.

Think how many flat pack wharehouses they could build on 51 hectares for 15 to 20 million pounds .......



A loss of 14 hectares with a saving of that magnitude may be a price worth paying.

IA you are right they do seem to have backed themselves into a corner. And as you keep telling us the previous government and their officers have made Wakefield find 95ha for warehousing, and and all the facts seem to suggest this was a tall order with the limited amount of land available to do this. So perhaps THIS government and its officers will help Wakefield with the burden and Lower the amount of land required for Warehousing.

I am merely stating my opinion that if we are playing in an SL standard stadium which will be oakwell for 2012 the hopefully Newmarket after that we have a better application.

And what about all the other parts that make up a licence application?

We do have aspects of our application which hold up quite strongly. Our community work is better than most; our junior set up scores pretty well; we have a good amount of home grown talent in the squad and we actually do pretty well for commercial income from sponsors etc.

We score poorly on fan base and on general income.

The ground - well that entirely depends on the basis used for the application.

I would prefer it to be judged on it's own merits - if we cross the finish line then the RFL would then have to decide to eliminate from the bottom up.

Back to NM - can I publicly state what a great job IA did at the presentation on Tuesday.

Whatever the outcome of the current situation, we know that Newmarket is vital to our future and we must not lose focus in the fight to keep it on the right path (or cycleway

)

Can we not make IA an honorary Wildcat, or even persuade him to defect from Headingley.
Surely WMDC could grant him political asylum or something



???

It could be the start of a programme to rehabilitate all those lost souls wandering around Wakefield wearing Whinos shirts; if it was extended out to those with misguided allegiances to Shudds and the Dulls, we'd be knocking on the door of 10k fans per week.

Cheers for that TRB but I wasn't asking for a response really. I was just stating that there is more than stadia that makes up the licence application and it would be silly to just judge either side, at the moment, on the stadium situation. Until one is building it's clear that no one is ahead. Planning permission means very little at the end of the day - it just means we can get it done quicker that's all.

Thought danny brough went to Dullersfield...

sorry not an option for me, too much use of the word "shabang" for my liking!!!

Significant in that we aren't signing one I take it.

If we get as far as the start of the season its going to be a long one.

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It will take an act of Parliament to reverse this and that is not going to happen in this parliamentary term and I doubt it will ever happen. Economic growth is still the key driver of the current Coalition plan to cut the state.

The officers are the same people, they have not changed, and unless the government gives them a significantly different steer on commercial development then the LDF will be signed and sealed by March 2012.

There is not a lack of land, Wakefield has more land than ever in modern history, just the plans for a very small part of it that is changing!

This is true but I don't think Yorkcourt will walk away from their current commitment on this site (which I expect is also covered by some legal looking bits of paper, if you know what I mean). Also, the planning committee is still made up of politicians and I bet planning permission would be harder to get if they tried!!! The bigger worry for me would be Yorkcourt walking away (which I still doubt) from the site full-stop and then leaving the site open for another developer to come in and just develop the site for B8.

It is minor to the work you have done and continue to do, but thank you, it means a lot to hear that from you.

As for our cyclist friend then all he needed was the 'correct' information to change his mind, which he did when he realised what the development was giving him and others in positives and very few negatives.

The guy from Methley Bridge was also much clearer on things and I think his overall opinion did change. We were talking about some exiting issues with Lafarge flouting (he says) an existing planning condition preventing them from using Watergate/Newmarket Lane and how a weight and physical width restriction might solve that problem and guarantee his only other worry, the accidental use of Watergate by HGV's to access the site. I fully support him on this and told him I would happily help longer term if Leeds or Wakefield did not make that a reality.