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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Didn't we get those two from somewhere like Keighley Albion, straight into our Academy side. Seem to remember them doing a short interview on stage at one of those Mustang Sally shirt presentation evenings.
We did get Feather back from Leeds on loan in 2004. He committed a crucial knock on away at Wigan in that play off game.'"
Tom Haughy?? came from Doncaster I think,
Feather is from Keighley but I don't know whether he signed directly to us, I have it in the back of my head that he was at Leeds at some point as a youth but I can't be sure.
His Wiki says he came through the ranks at Wakefield but which rank he started at I don't know.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Didn't we get those two from somewhere like Keighley Albion, straight into our Academy side. Seem to remember them doing a short interview on stage at one of those Mustang Sally shirt presentation evenings.
We did get Feather back from Leeds on loan in 2004. He committed a crucial knock on away at Wigan in that play off game.'"
I thought we had Feather back on a permanent basis?
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Does anyone know when/who was the last player to play for england/GB who came through our youth system is..ive got in my head as ellis but as there been anyone since.i know TJ was in our academy but he came from leeds youth set up'"
What are the rules regarding "home grown"?
The TJ scenario for me is interesting. But for me I couldn't care less where he was born, where he played before he was 16 etc. He's our player who has come through our Academy and who we have developed. Leeds born or not surely he's home grown? However I've no idea what the RFL / authorities would say
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| Quote ="marc271841"What are the rules regarding "home grown"?
The TJ scenario for me is interesting. But for me I couldn't care less where he was born, where he played before he was 16 etc. He's our player who has come through our Academy and who we have developed. Leeds born or not surely he's home grown? However I've no idea what the RFL / authorities would say'"
To me, the team that produced you is the one that gives you your first contract and your first game ie Trinity Academy to the first-team squad.
So although Ryan Atkins only played one game for Bradford and definitely broke through at Trinity he is a Bradford product. TJ was in Trinities academy and went straight to the first team, hence a Trinity product.
There are anomalies. Danny Brough came through our academy but I don't recall him making the first team before getting himself sacked, yet he almost certainly would have played first team. He debuted for Dewsbury but he can hardly be called a Dewsbury club product even if he is from Dewsbury. Can get very confusing at times.
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| Quote ="marc271841"What are the rules regarding "home grown"?
The TJ scenario for me is interesting. But for me I couldn't care less where he was born, where he played before he was 16 etc. He's our player who has come through our Academy and who we have developed. Leeds born or not surely he's home grown? However I've no idea what the RFL / authorities would say'"
Yeah not intrested where born im just doing somthing and its more a case of who came through our system and ours only...another one im thinking of is brough sure he came through our academy
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Yeah not intrested where born im just doing somthing and its more a case of who came through our system and ours only...another one im thinking of is brough sure he came through our academy'"
Yes, he did.
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| Quote ="homme vaste"Yes, he did.'"
Yes, he did but he never played first-team due to borrowing the club's minibus without their permission. So as I say he's an anomaly but you'd have to be fairly pedantry not to say he's a Wakefield product.
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| Quote ="marc271841"I thought we had Feather back on a permanent basis?'"
Seem to remember it being a loan for some reason. His career stats for that period show Leeds 2003, 2006 with Wakey 2004 and 2005.
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| Quote ="vastman"Tom Haughy?? came from Doncaster I think,
Feather is from Keighley but I don't know whether he signed directly to us, I have it in the back of my head that he was at Leeds at some point as a youth but I can't be sure.
His Wiki says he came through the ranks at Wakefield but which rank he started at I don't know.'"
Squad picture of 1999 Academy posted on Heritage Facebook dated May 17th 2017 confirms Haughey as being signed from Keighley Albion. No mention of Chris Feather but plenty of other fresh faced youngsters.
I'm not skilled enough to post the photo unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"Squad picture of 1999 Academy posted on Heritage Facebook dated May 17th 2017 confirms Haughey as being signed from Keighley Albion. No mention of Chris Feather but plenty of other fresh faced youngsters.
I'm not skilled enough to post the photo unfortunately.
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I believe you, don't know who I'm thinking of
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| Quote ="vastman"Yes, he did but he never played first-team due to borrowing the club's minibus without their permission. So as I say he's an anomaly but you'd have to be fairly pedantry not to say he's a Wakefield product.'"
For me if he played age group rugby for us, we coached him over a period of say 2 years it was our investment and he's home grown. I don't think you need to play a first team game to be classed as home grown.
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| Quote ="marc271841"For me if he played age group rugby for us, we coached him over a period of say 2 years it was our investment and he's home grown. I don't think you need to play a first team game to be classed as home grown.'"
No that’s true and that’s why I said he’s an anomaly. Under normal circumstances he would have gone on to play his first senior game for us but he didn’t. So in essence we waited six years for his debut for us and the chance to call our scrum half a home grown player.
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| Quote ="marc271841"For me if he played age group rugby for us, we coached him over a period of say 2 years it was our investment and he's home grown. I don't think you need to play a first team game to be classed as home grown.'"
Think thts a good way tolook at it.i think it fair to day while we have produced handfull of ok players and thats no dispespect to thosr players but we havent really produced anyoe who really sets the game alight for15 years plus maybe TJ as 1 expecptionif he really produced by ud
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| Quote ="Luppylad"Think thts a good way tolook at it.i think it fair to day while we have produced handfull of ok players and thats no dispespect to thosr players but we havent really produced anyoe who really sets the game alight for15 years plus maybe TJ as 1 expecptionif he really produced by ud'"
There is no question that TJ was produced by us, his links to Leeds are utterly minimul.
At present, the club has never had more homegrown players of genuine ability in its ranks, certainly since SL began.
Regular first team
Max Jowitt
Tom Johnstone
Kyle Wood
Jay Pitts
James Batchelor
Jorden Crowther
Lee Kershaw
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Jack Croft
Yusuf Aydin
Oliie Greensmith
Harry Bowes
Conner Bailey
Yet to debut (I think)
Dane Windrow
Sam Eseh
Pat O'Donovan
That's 15 of our squad homegrown, seven of whom are regulars, one of whom IMHO is when fit IS the best in his position in the SL. To me, that's pretty impressive for a club that generally can't compete with the cheque book.
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| Feather started at Leeds then left us for Leeds again before finally coming back.
I seem to remember watching Brought play once or twice before he got the sack, maybe a couple of pre season friendlies, but he certainly played.
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| Quote ="inside man"Feather started at Leeds then left us for Leeds again before finally coming back.
I seem to remember watching Brought play once or twice before he got the sack, maybe a couple of pre season friendlies, but he certainly played.'"
Broughy was one of my occasional 'good spots', I took an interest in him early on and recall him weeping after Trinity lost the Academy final to Leeds which made me like him even more. So I'm fairly sure he never played first team, and it states the same on his Wiki page. Don't even think he got on the bench, may have done a friendly but tbh I don't even recall that.
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| Quote ="vastman"There is no question that TJ was produced by us, his links to Leeds are utterly minimul.
At present, the club has never had more homegrown players of genuine ability in its ranks, certainly since SL began.
Regular first team
Max Jowitt
Tom Johnstone
Kyle Wood
Jay Pitts
James Batchelor
Jorden Crowther
Lee Kershaw
Fringe players (all have played first team)
Jack Croft
Yusuf Aydin
Oliie Greensmith
Harry Bowes
Conner Bailey
Yet to debut (I think)
Dane Windrow
Sam Eseh
Pat O'Donovan
That's 15 of our squad homegrown, seven of whom are regulars, one of whom IMHO is when fit IS the best in his position in the SL. To me, that's pretty impressive for a club that generally can't compete with the cheque book.'"
When you see it on paper like that i'd say it's quite impressive for a club like ourselves who financially are constantly juggling plates, although the other side to that is when you have no brass the best way forward is to try and produce as many homegrown players as possible. The other side to that is producing quality home grown talent is easier said than done especially if you have no brass so you're in a constant loop hoping that you get it right as a club. Looking at the above we're at least doing ok if not better.
I guess having an absolute beauty like Johnstone on the list is the icing on the cake
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| Quote ="Schunter"When you see it on paper like that i'd say it's quite impressive for a club like ourselves who financially are constantly juggling plates, although the other side to that is when you have no brass the best way forward is to try and produce as many homegrown players as possible. The other side to that is producing quality home grown talent is easier said than done especially if you have no brass so you're in a constant loop hoping that you get it right as a club. Looking at the above we're at least doing ok if not better.
I guess having an absolute beauty like Johnstone on the list is the icing on the cake'"
This in part is the rewards from the 1873 initiative it's really helped I believe in securing some great local talent
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| I you watched Shudders last night, no Sexer, Cogger, Gavet etc and they looked like a team with Passion and effort, hard to remember that at Wakey.
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| Quote ="Manuel"I you watched Shudders last night, no Sexer, Cogger, Gavet etc and they looked like a team with Passion and effort, hard to remember that at Wakey.'"
The same Shudds side who had just lost 6 on the bounce including one against Trinity, have a bottomless pit of cash, share a soccer ground and have a super coach at the helm? I saw them too but to me they were fortunate to hit a Hull side who are injury hit,lacking in match practice and coughed up probably one of their worst ever performances.
Lets see super shudds in their next few fixtures.
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| A least they played with passion with so called marquee players
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| Quote ="Manuel"A least they played with passion with so called marquee players'"
WTF does that mean?
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| Its not passion were missing, its a game plan.
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| Quote ="Manuel"A least they played with passion with so called marquee players'"
LOL. We don't have any marquee players.
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| Quote ="PopTart"LOL. We don't have any marquee players.'"
But yet we had 3 players in an England squad, and could have had easily 3 players if fit in the All stars team? Yet we are next to bottom in the league.........something doesn't add up to me?!
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