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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I am sorry but we have to face that our track record of signing new players is somewhat questionable. I actually hope none of them leave because I fear what may be brought in to replace them.'"
So a guess then?
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| Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.'"
I’m not convinced on TJ yet. It could be a case that his groin injury has de-railed a potential move. Also Yaha resigned for Catalans after TJ’s injury. Some teams willing to take a punt on him may not now be as keen. This may put us back in the driving seat for his signing. It’s all guesswork at the moment until something officials announced. TJ is my favourite player but if he goes I do rate Murphy too. It’s just a matter of waiting till somethings announced.
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| It must be difficult for players to commit to us when we are not 100% guaranteed to stay up, especially after last weeks shambolics. I genuinely wouldn’t feel badly on anyone wanting to leave to either progress their careers or for more money, it’s a short career. I’m sure things behind the scenes will be busy in regards to comings and goings. We need to be realistic with our transfer expectations, we have done ourselves no favours being in this position in the league, as we will be way down the pecking order of potential suitors for decent players, or suitable players for us. Hopefully news of 2023 squad will come out when we have more of a buffer over Toulouse, which we can make happen tomorrow (not feeling too confident) or Magic weekend.
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| Quote ="Prince Buster"Sounds like he is on his way in my opinion .
Hope the Luke Gale rumour is horlicks'"
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| A number of players are on inflated contracts and we need to get them back to a position where there is status-quo within the club regards a wage structure.
Miller is on a big wage probably more than he brings to the table and doesn’t want to drop from that so is rightly for him looking elsewhere.
Wakefield have to start making some tough decisions and do what is right for the club. If he wants more than we believe he is worth then he leaves and we look for a replacement.
We have been here before handing out contracts which simply do not provide value for money and we need to phase them out. As contracts wind down we have an opportunity to do that, but the key is obviously finding players to replace them that strengthen us across the park.
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| Quote ="jonh"A number of players are on inflated contracts and we need to get them back to a position where there is status-quo within the club regards a wage structure.
Miller is on a big wage probably more than he brings to the table and doesn’t want to drop from that so is rightly for him looking elsewhere.
Wakefield have to start making some tough decisions and do what is right for the club. If he wants more than we believe he is worth then he leaves and we look for a replacement.
We have been here before handing out contracts which simply do not provide value for money and we need to phase them out. As contracts wind down we have an opportunity to do that, but the key is obviously finding players to replace them that strengthen us across the park.'"
I do feel that investing in the academy and pathway to first team is the way forward medium to long term. I think the difficulty is the short term 1-3 years. As I said before though I can see us being much more attractive when the developments are complete.
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| I fear players contracts will be irrelivent as getting relegated will probably most will leave anyway.should we stay up i still think a clear out is needed too many players on good money (i assume)who if where honest dont produce on a regular basis which results show.
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| To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"To many players on good money, we don't sighn players who should be any position to demand good money.
Trinity are and have been for some time the scrag end of sighning players and if there's any mofe than 4 /5players on SL money we deserve all we get.
If we do get relegated the club will be left with a number of over rated players who will in all honesty have to see out their contracts because no other club will want them.'"
IF we are relegated then it has been mentioned that players can leave because their contracts are only for SL rugby. Does it not work both ways i.e. the club can release players because it is no longer a SL club?
If not, it should, because it's down to some of those players that we're in this predicament.
If some of the players had played with heart in at least 4 games we should have won this season, things would be different, and it seems harsh that if we went down they would have to come with us!
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| Quote ="Trojan Horse"Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.'"
I’m not convinced on TJ yet. It could be a case that his groin injury has de-railed a potential move. Also Yaha resigned for Catalans after TJ’s injury. Some teams willing to take a punt on him may not now be as keen. This may put us back in the driving seat for his signing. It’s all guesswork at the moment until something officials announced. TJ is my favourite player but if he goes I do rate Murphy too. It’s just a matter of waiting till somethings announced.'"
In all honesty, I wouldn't be too concerned if he went really.
Yes, he is, in his day, a potential match winner. However, sadly his injury record is a concern, and he's only thst potential match winner when he's on the field.
I would imagine if we did try to keep him, he'd provably end up being one of our top earners.
Sadly, I think he averages something like 17 games a season. For me, with a club with our finances, you need your top earners yo be playing more games.
I'd rather be fighting hard to keep Batch, and be looking to replace Miller with a quality half back, maybe two if Lino goes as well
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| Miller has already signed for Castleford 100% and also other players have signed pre contract agreements elsewhere,the club are as expected not saying this as it would make them look even worse than we do now
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Well unless I am their agent then yes it is my assumption based on the article from Miller and no mention either from the club or the players in respect of Batchelor and TJ.
I am sure if they were still in negotiations they would have said so. I wonder on what basis you believe them to be staying, is it the well worn fingers crossed or just blind faith.'"
Never said they are staying. Just that you don't know.
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| Quote ="PopTart"Never said they are staying. Just that you don't know.'"
The pimp is a classic example of someone who writes the narrative to suit himself. If it’s positive news then basically it’s all part of the clubs huge lie. If it’s negative it’s immediately credible no matter how dubious the source.
Hence when things go well he never posts or posts disparaging comments. If it’s negative he posts quicker than a whippet on heat.
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| I'm sure he brings more to the team than we perhaps see on the pitch, however Miller has not been a world beater for us. Maybe he'll go well with a different set of players around him.
I hope he stays, but I won't be crying if he goes.
He's not the Messiah.
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| Quote ="dboy"I'm sure he brings more to the team than we perhaps see on the pitch, however Miller has not been a world beater for us. Maybe he'll go well with a different set of players around him.
I hope he stays, but I won't be crying if he goes.
He's not the Messiah.'"
He's not the messiah, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!
For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.
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| Quote ="PopTart"[uHe's not the messiah[/u, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!
For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.'"
He's a very naughty boy
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's not the messiah, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!
For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.'"
Not too sure about Fifita, i dont think he is the player of a few seasons back. I believe we have had the best of him. However Batch I would love to hang on to for many different reasons. Now I do not know for sure but there seems to be many rumblings on the various grape vines and gossip sites, we have lost him. Real shame if true.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's not the messiah, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!
For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.'"
Batch has definitely gone.
TJ and Miller more than likely to gone but still playing a bit of a dance with the club.
Batch though has gone and has informed the club of his decision. In truth it was a miracle he signed his last deal with us so we probably got a bit more time out of him than we should have.
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| Quote ="vastman"The pimp is a classic example of someone who writes the narrative to suit himself. If it’s positive news then basically it’s all part of the clubs huge lie. If it’s negative it’s immediately credible no matter how dubious the source.
Hence when things go well he never posts or posts disparaging comments. If it’s negative he posts quicker than a whippet on heat.'"
I at least don’t keep stating an already disproven statement because I do make positive posts when we win, even if this goes against your pre perceived narrative.
I have read many negative posts you yourself write, not much positivity on your part.
I actually do write the posts myself without any guidance unlike someone I can mention. I note you now want a good clear out of the existing squad, I presume you want all the money saved to be used to replace these players. The problem is that the team has bounced along for several seasons we may not even survive in SL after this one so where do these replacements come from. I regret a redeveloped ground will not immediately overcome our perceived shortcomings to any players.
I would ask your contacts what is going on, you never know they may actually tell you if they have a master plan but I doubt it because they really do appear to not know how to get us out of our current mess. I wonder how the majority of supporters not represented on the forum will feel if Fifita, Batchelor, TJ and Miller announce they have signed elsewhere, I doubt it will be oh good time for a clear out. If Lino and Tanginoa leave then your friends will need to confirm why, one would presume it is to receive a transfer and reduce the salary budget.
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| Quote ="PopTart"He's not the messiah, but he's decent and we can't afford to replace him with the messiah either. Probably not even Brian!
For me the best way to go is to let TJ go, let Miller go if he really wants to join our rivals and use that money to replace Miller with someone good and keep Fifita and Batch.'"
Do know what you could clear just about the full team for me they've hardly set the league of fire and done nothing to get out of the bottom for years
Time we became a selling club
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| Think it is about time fans faced up to the fact that if we play like we have done in the last two matches all players will be going .Never seen a Wakefield team so far of the pace.Playing J C at hooker again is not hellping, no we got no choice through injury but shows were we are
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| Quote ="alegend"Think it is about time fans faced up to the fact that if we play like we have done in the last two matches all players will be going .Never seen a Wakefield team so far of the pace.Playing J C at hooker again is not hellping, no we got no choice through injury but shows were we are'"
We have every choice. Bowes is playing well in the reserves and has played well when called up to first team. We should be leaving JC at 13. It’s lads like JC, Bowes, Batch, Murphy etc who will give their right arm for trinity to get a win I suspect.
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| Quote ="lampyboy"Jacob Miller says the Wakey club will always be close ro his heart no matter what happens. He goes on to say that his 2 young children have been born in Wakefield so it's not going to be eraised from his memory.
WP xays Jacob will make a decision based on what's best for him, but he hopes he stays.
WP also says a club like Wakefield must stay within its budget.
O do the club value Jacob and are prepared to push the boat out a little to keep him in the red white and blue,
I hope so because any replacement will not come cheap.'"
A replacement might not come cheap , but with his , Johnstone n tupou’s wages getting weighed in I’m sure we can temp some quality into the fold
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| Quote ="alegend"Think it is about time fans faced up to the fact that if we play like we have done in the last two matches all players will be going .Never seen a Wakefield team so far of the pace.Playing J C at hooker again is not hellping, no we got no choice through injury but shows were we are'"
Harry bowes isnt injured
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