Our fitness levels are a joke.

I'm not laughing

The joke is on us

Regarding the players personal standards, I agree they should have pride in what they do but, there appears to be a total lack of professionalism within the whole squad including the back room room staff. Everything is slow, and lethargic with a "couldn't care less" attitude about it. Lets hope there s a total change in attitudes and outlooks from the beginning of Smith's reign, we need some pride and passion putting back into the team first and then hopefully some structure and organisation in our performances.

I’d have though seven weeks is long enough to get this lot into a cohesive unit, but I fear quite a few are already dreaming of pastures new for next year.

It’s a big task, some think it’s insurmountable, but based on fairly recent history, staying up against all the odds is a good as it gets, for the long suffering fools who continue with this humiliating obsession.

Is it doable? Of course it is.

cant imagine a man who doesn't know the name of our players would ever be able to start a business or even hold down a job for that matter.

I suppose you can only hope that in the case of these players the chance to play under a genuinely recognised Coach may sway the - you'd hope.

Not sure I would expect a player to 'know' how to get fit to the required standard, that's why we need a competent conditioner

Surely those players who have played thousands of games between them under various coaches and conditioners know if they are in the best physical shape they could be?!! If they feel that the pre season, and current fitness and conditioning isn't/hasn't been right then surely they should have said something?!

Really, give over - maybe the younger ones but the older ones, of course they do.

Andy Mason used to self condition before every match and that was in the days when conditioners were a hair care product.

I wouldn't expect them to refine it to the absolute perfection but I'd expect the basic levels.

Odd this, because we looked fit enough under Clawson two seasons ago - just makes you wonder because it has to be more than one person and one issue that's destroying us.

I think this year some of our players have been quite happy to take the easier option to their fitness/condition and there doesn't seem to have been anyone on their backs making them improve.

It just so happens that the son of Brian Smith is qualified in the art - but is currently employed by Gold Coast Titans.

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Apologies it's his other son,Keegan.

But he also has employment with Trent Robinson at Sydney Roosters.

Shame Smith juniors aren't coming over too, without doubt something is needed to get us fitter and current set up isn't doing it.

Hopefully Keegan will have also seen some video of our shower of poo and said to his dad " Get rid of that lump Clawson" he is stealing money from Wakefield.

I'm starting to think he got the "Clogger" nickname cos that's what one of his fitness regimes does to your arteries.

As for recent comments on players professionalism and taking pride in their physical fitness there is some merit to it.

I live close to Hull and I've seen Danny Houghton out on runs by himself. That is going beyond the set club routine of organised training and get yourself off to the gym lads.

I wonder how many of our lads put the extra time in by themselves which is not seen by the club?

Tim smyth?

Hey repeatedly lifting those cups in costa is hard work you know.

Although the players' fitness doesn't look good, as a team , we don't exactly help ourselves.
Ball retention in the first half yesterday wasn't bad and we kept in the game.
Second half, we must have "defended" twice as many sets as Cas, which is going to tire any team.
Having said that, our attitude to tackling is utterly woeful.
In contact, we seem happy to just stop the attacking player, rather than dominating them.
Yesterday, there was no attempt to put the Cas players on their backs and almost every time they actually completed a tackle, the Cas players
were able to quickly get into a position to play the ball, compared to the "wrestle" that Cas put in, we were shocking.
This gives us less time to organise our defence and we certainly made it easy for our local rivals. Also when we had 2 and 3 players in the tackle on Webster, they just weren't effective and he still set up 2 simple tries for his winger.

Is this down to fitness, desire or technique ?

The most disappointing thing yesterday was the lack of response from a group of players who get paid to play RL and has been asked, only last week, if they wanted to play for the club.
Also, knowing that the new coach would probably be watching, why weren't they trying to impress Brian Smith.?

We've been trying all season and we still haven't got it organised.

I guess the short answer is, they don't really need to. With the possible exception of maybe a few journey men who aren't good enough to get game time at their current clubs, what he's got is pretty much what he's stuck with. I'm pretty sure there isn't going to be a wholesale moving of players in and out.

Our new man will know he has to more or less work wonders with the players he has now. The players will also know that too.

And because they aren't fit enough it contributes to a lack of intensity from the first minute

Aing to radio Leeds its nothing to do with fitness. It bloody well is I have a degree and numerous fitness qualifications were sluggish and on our ass around 50minutes. The strength in our team is not there either we made McMeeken look like a 20stone bodybuilder couldn't bring him down.
We are slow and very powder puff!

Infac we are all round pathetic!

Anyone speak tard i need a translation!

Our training regime got knobbled last week.
Saw Luke Gale going into Trinity Walk Costa.