Hampshire and J.Wood stank the place out tonight. Every second phase care to a sharp halt with them being indecisive.

I don’t want to see Josh Wood again at 9. He’s not a 9. Can’t create anything, no great pass selection or ability to scoot.

I’d rather see Harry Bowes there next week who is an actual hooker for gods sake. Every man and his dog in the 13 is filling in at hooker sending garbage passes out. Crowther first stint was decent though.

We have Pitts and Ashurst who can’t break a tackle between them or run any decent lines these days.

Green may as well not have played. For a guy his size to turn his back and wince every time he takes the ball in is awful to see.

Westerman was awesome tonight and Fifita was pretty good but the rest was not good enough.

We need a 9 desperately though. Westy is looking pretty fit atm so I’d give him a bash at second row and put walker at loose next week. Bowes on bench to offer some zip around ptb.

Kalepi looks like a shadow of the player he was last year so far.

That is absolutely correct we are too slow. Slow at the play the ball, slow to get the ball wide, slow to defend, slow to see their players dart from dummy half.

Think the control of the game from acting half is non existent , I don’t want to knock individuals but we had one run from our dummy half in 80 minutes of play.. although I thought both half backs were poor but it doesn’t help the first receiver much when you are receiving the same ball over and over again . Hopefully wood will be back but at moment would keep j wood and j crowther as far away from the play the ball as possible

but in the clammer to sign a half back we didn’t require we neglect not signing a hooker and a couple of grafters. To be honest it’s too late now IMO

Crowther and j woods might not be the most dynamic hookers in the league but they tackle their hearts out . K woods needs to come on against a tiring defence and ,really don’t think he would have made a difference tonight in that second half as Wigan were all over us and snuffed out the little bit attack we had

We desperately needed an organising half but Lino doesn’t seem to be that after 2 games. It’s clear as day we are missing Kyle at 9 our distribution is static and amateur at best. How hard is it as a hooker to take a few steps out to draw the first defender in. One run from dummy half in 80 mins is atrocious.

Think its maybe fair to say the player recruitment and retention over last 2 years has beennot good enough dont wantto be too harsh on the club due money restrictions but
Playershave been signed who aint good enough and we have let players go who are better than ones we have kept.using money on an extra coach doesnt help either.the thing what baffeles me most is the signing of an organising half back its clear lino isnt that

They never looked like scoring, even when they had all the pressure. Very, very pedestrian.

It's still early days into the season and we've played two very good teams, but it's the lack of zip in attack that worries me. When Wigan started to click, even in the first half, they were doing everything at double-speed compared to us.

Lino? Still early but he needs to get a grip of the game. Surely the role of the first-receiver is to attack the line and distribute to those running good lines around him. He received it, he stayed still, and just passed to the next man in the line. Going to be Miller and Rocky again soon in the halves.

Think any first received would struggle ,with the slowness of the play the ball .J C and Wood should be know we're near play the ball as they are far to slow to get the ball away .They can tackle but no good with ball in hand . There not helping the team at all .Even if it was a 15 yard dash with the ball

I think that's a bit unfair on Wood he definitely added some impetus to our play when he was on the field. Hard to scoot from dummy half when you're not making yards up front, which was the case by the time he came on. When we were on the front foot in the first 20/25 he was on the bench and scooting, understandably, ain't Crowther's forte is it.

I think that's a bit unfair on Wood he definitely added some impetus to our play when he was on the field. Hard to scoot from dummy half when you're not making yards up front, which was the case by the time he came on. When we were on the front foot in the first 20/25 he was on the bench and scooting, understandably, ain't Crowther's forte is it.

Where is Vastman he seldom misses a chance to post on every topic. I suppose he is looking for the positives before he posts, so he could be sometime.

As I said last season, you can’t afford to replace him.

My main concern so far this year player wise are Tanginoa and Lino.

Probably take some time for Lino to bed in but the opportunity was there tonight to take the game on, but he didn’t.

We’ve needed a hooker for some time and in reality not scratched that itch.

Tanginoa had looked anonymous so far this year.

The biggest issue though in my opinion is the conditioning of the team. We just can’t cope when teams raise there intensity. I’m not sure who is doing it these days but the team look off the pace when dragged into the deep water.

I'm sure that at some stage he'll be on here to give his honest appraisal after digesting the game, unlike some on here yourself included he tends not to go in feet first with a knee jerk reaction, but don't let that stop your pettiness, after all he has made you look rather foolish over the years, so you go for it chief and fill yer boots.

I'd probably say Scarlett wins in this one.
He makes himself look foolish far more times than Vasty does it to him.
It's a finely honed skill.

Well, that was disappointing.
More than competitive in the first half but, our attacking play was mickey poor.
Yes, Wigan's defence was excellent but, we were totally impotent with ball in hand.
There has to be more than "give it to Fifita" as an attacking idea and out last tackle options were awful.

Wigan did well to exploit our left side but, we were very, very poor in the 2nd 40.

One thing I did notice is that Lino was getting hit late after more or less every kick, there was no one from our side protecting him. They just let the Wigan lads do it over and over again.

I regret that a 19% winning percentage and your continued failure to accept what is clear to see takes foolish to an whole new level.

Accept what?
I do accept our win-loss ratio. Its a fact.

I agree. It was picked up once by the ref but we needed to protect him.

then you have very low expectations

Sadly though realistic expectations given the current status of the club.

When should we worry or does being a supporter means you have to put up with winning ratio of 19% which if continued would result in relegation with the first to leave being Chester.
I admire your attempt to fund the club to promote the team unfortunately they are not helping you and the others with your cause. I am afraid that except for the diehards interest comes from success not a string of defeats.

A 19% winning rate wouldn’t see us go down.