So why waste money on players we don’t need?

Don’t sign players who don’t improve us just because they are available.

Better to save the money and blood our own than bring in the likes of Lineham etc.

personally I think both Gaskill and Lineham are past their sell by date but you can't knock them for experience and past record can only put it down to that and cover for injuries we need a good solid prop and leave Battye for reserve and cover and yes the young ones do have to learn and quick

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That’s fine but if you can’t rustle up 17 from the 30 then you’re stuffed.

Correct.

Not wanting to pick on a specific player but Tanginoa is your perfect example.

I've no idea what you are talking about.

Put things into perspective at this present time with the teams I’ve watched only saints would compete n beat Wigan . Wigan are on a roll , we sent a weakened team , any other team in super league sending a scratch squad would end up the same , look at saints at Toulouse for proof , even they came unstuck

true you can only replace them when you can

you just have so while we have Tanginoa named just what has gone wrong with him because he was used to do some barm storming runs and his defense wasn't that bad

I don’t think anyone would deny that but all the same it doesn’t sound like we made much of a fight but the damage was done in Thursday.

I think there’s about 6 players in the First Team Squad that aren’t up to SL standard in my opinion and possibly shouldn’t have been signed….they appear to be merely making up the numbers rather than genuinely competing for positions …..

Money saved from these signings could have led to the signing of a promising prop forward….

Think 6 is the starting number

Truth is I’m sure WP will turn it around and we will survive.

But we need to recruit better. There has to be better in the championship than some of our recent efforts.

It’s early days for WP but we need to concentrate on finding players with guts if we can’t compete for ability.

Our two best coaches in my time were Kear and Kelly and both had a knack for finding these mongrel players. Poching needs to find that, he can clearly spot class.

Truth is that Gaskell, Lineham and Hood were not his signings but whether he would have signed them who knows.

Nest season should we survive this on will be Willies real test.

The problem is Wakefield generally have a smaller pot of players to focus on than others, and not just because of finances.
Whilst ever we continue to flirt with survival it is hard to attract or engage with players early because of the uncertainty around our status as a SL club. Most of the top clubs have the luxury of doing their business early and get it wrapped up early long before realistically we can. What we are generally left with is the B or C list of players who have not been able to secure a deal which makes finding the gems all the more challenging.

We are starting a 100m race 5 seconds after most other clubs and will always continue to do so unless we break the cycle.

What makes it more worrying is we will potentially competing for said B-C players with championship clubs like Leigh and Fev. It’s just a shame we have never been able to build off the back of top 5 seasons.

One club the thing do seem to be doing right is focussing on youth. We should be bringing 1/2 players through every year to full time. It won’t pay off immediately but in 3-5 years we could have some talent on our hands.

I’m looking at Bowes, Eseh, Murphy, Shaw current crop. We need to invest and really develop them. Eseh if managed right has the size to go all the way.

what we really need is for mc to get his wallet out and sign some quality players recent signing are let’s face it cheapys

He's never going to do that, and I don't think he has the wealth even if he wanted to.

We've a £400k hole in funding this year because of the drop in sky money.

I reckon MC probably feels he's had his wallet out enough in the past!
I also reckon there isn't much in the club's wallet.

If there is any money I would much rather it be spent investing in the quality youth we have coming through and finding the next batch. We would get much more value in the medium to long term than paying a contract on a big name. Invest into the roots I say and look at the big picture in 3-5 years when hopefully we have retained and developed some real talent. A club like us can’t sustain paying big contracts out.

MC is going above and beyond the requirements of any sane man by keeping the club afloat during some really tough times. If we get the ground upgrade sorted then hopefully there will be increased cash available.

He has no more reason to open his own private wallet than you or I.

He works for free, that alone is enough. Why people feel they have the right to demand he gives even more is outrageous.

I think people need to accept that a number of reasonably well paid players are currently underperforming and it’s up to them to get their acts together.

Totally agree with this, I don’t know MC, I’m just fairly grateful that without him we would be no more. The bloke cuts the cloth accordingly and got us out of a big stinking dung heap which Glover left us in with his Razzmatazz BS. I don’t think we have recruited well this year, I didn’t make judgment in preseason as any player we sign deserves a clean slate and opportunity to showcase what they can do, but we’re pretty much 1/4 through the season and from what most have seen it’s simply not good enough. I just hope we can put these 2 abysmal defeats behind us and really compete with Hull Kr.

Ultimately it was Glovers responsibility I suppose but his mistake was giving Elston a free hand to run the club into the ground. While it’s easy to condemn Glover for the financial meltdown he did walk away from a few hundred thousand in Directors loans which he could have recalled if he had wished.

Wasn't his Mrs the highest paid at the club teaching the dance troop?