Gledhill?

Don't agree, Tom looked a better player at the same age IMHO. That said F/B is a marginally a harder position so that might equel it up a bit.

Sometimes you have to go with what's in front of you rather than potential. With only two out of his five games so far against SL opposition Jowitt still has a lot to prove but I agree he looks good. Johnstone on the other hand has played 25 games over two seasons (started at 1icon_cool.gif for one of the worst Trinity teams ever and has scored 16 tries. That's more than one a game and to me that says it all and after yesterday utter brilliance is now proven beyond doubt for me.

Times like this when you remember all the people who bagged Club 1873 as a failure because we didn't have 9 academy players in the first team six months after it's inception. Almost as if it takes a bit longer than that to revamp a youth setup....

Jowitt has played against Saints, hullx2, and Hudds. 2 games in the qualifiers v Sheff and Fax. Made his debut in 2014 in a seriously under strength side away at saints. Went well too.

Think Bjb will struggle to get back in Jowett was fantastic. Last year away at Hull it was like he had played there for years. Amazing what a win can do! Things looking positive again

Henry Paul

I'd need to check with Trinity Heritage, but I don't think Johnstone played at 18. Pretty sure he was at least 19 as he was a bit of a late developer!

Otherwise, yes, whilst he was always raw, there has always been something special in Tom and with a heart the size he has the future is very bright indeed!

A bit pedantic there TRB!

Indeed, but then that is why I picked 18 as the benchmark - to leave Johnstone out of it!

Both fab players with tons of potential!

Never seen a more assured calm considered young man playing full back. He's just brilliant!!!

Couldn't have put it better myself. Was my man of the match before they announced it. Having that certainty at the back seemed to give Salford problems in where to kick and what to expect from it.

The self-assurance of a seasoned SL player - safe as houses and put his mate away for two scores. Brilliant.

Spot on. Great to see.

Consumate is the word!

Normally a F/B is either a good attacker or defender or has safe hands. Rarely do you find a player who though not outstanding at any of them is very good at all three which IMHO makes him an excellent F/B. Before anybody takes offence think about what I've just said - he's not exceptionally fast like Johnstone is or Hall can be, there are possibly a few better tacklers out there and ditto safe hands. However I can't think of anyone in SL ot the moment who's as good at all three as Jowitt appears to be on his last two outings.

I'll put it a better way,

Jowitt Attack 8, defence 8, Safety 8 = 24/30

Big club player X Attack 10, defence 6, Safety 6 - 22/30

It's only Jowitt by 2 but in a game often won by inches that's a big difference and I know which players stats I'd want.

Well doen Max.

It's days like these you don't mind seeing that Direct Debit for the club1873 leaving your account.

I know Tom is signed up for 4 years but have we done the same with Max ???
If not, then we need to very quickly !!

I think an on form Zak Hardaker is the benchmark in terms of all round fullback ability in superleague, although even he seems to have been bitten by the Leeds decline this season. Jowitt has matched his all round ability in his couple of games this season so far.

But i'd add one more category to your list, and that is attitude. I've yet to see young Max Give up on a chase, duck out of a challenge or going hiding where the hard yards off the line are needed. He beats the aforementioned Hardaker hands down in this department. He's still raw and his reading of the game without the ball will continue to improve over time but for a lad with under 10 first team games under his belt he looks scarily good.

He is pretty quick, not in the same league as Johnstone but if he gets 5yards on someone they won't catch him over 60 or 70 metres.

What a brilliant offload for Johnstone's 2nd try. And looked solid with every high ball Dobson kicked at him, no ounce of fear of on rushing defence (especially with Carney). Well deserved MOM.

Talk about competition for places.
I was feeling a bit sorry for Craig Hall being rested after scoring the winner on Monday but, Jowitt was as good at FB today as I can remember in my time.
Rock solid under the high ball, tackled everything and setting up tries (the beating a man and off load to put Johnstone in, was class).
Phil Clarke was in need of a mop and bucket with the efforts of our two youngsters.
Absolutely brilliant !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Loved Jon Wells appraisal of his m.o.m max Jowitt, how well he had played. Oh and Jon can pronounce Tom JOHNSTONE of which nobody else from SKY seem to be able to!!!!

Max Jowitt is head and shoulders above Craig hall at fullback. Totally committed in attack and defence and safe as houses under the high ball. A star in the making along with Tom .

Vastman you say not fast like Johnstone Hall who would have backed him to chase and catch an international winger like he did on Good Friday so he aint no slouch the lad could go on to be one of the best all round fullbacks we have ever had. As they say it also depends how he reacts after a poor game and I think his attitude will pull him straight through any dip he might have. It looks like we have unearthed a gem in the hardest position to play on the field where you cant be a shrinking violet

Exactly my point, with all the other boxes ticked pretty quick is all he needs to be a devastating F/B.

If you recall Matt Blaymire had all the other attributes but his total lack of speed meant he could never join the elite evn though he did a good job for us.

How good is Max?? He gets better and better, the things he does at his age are outstanding!! His kick for BJB in the last two mins of a game summed it up for me, Fabulous to see a young Wakey lad performing week in, week out!