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Who says your lying nor did I mention tax fiddles.

However that looked more than 5000 to me and with all due respect I've been coming to BV for 25 years so I have an idea. Now either folk are getting in without your knowledge or the previous regimes have grossly exaggerated. Either way I think it's worth mentioning and not getting over sensitive about, don't you?

Give me strength!

We have had three previous dodgy owners, Richardson who I liked, Pearman who was a swine and Glover - how many more times do you want your head flushed down the toilet? Now I'm not saying Mr Carter is the same I DON'T KNOW but neither does anyone on here. Some seem to think they do based on little more than standing in the same room which for me is no longer enough. It's not personal but I'm no longer willing to just accept what I'm told just because someone at the "club" tells - not even the CEO.

What I know is we should question everything from now on no matter how trivial and if that means I'm off Mr Carters Christmas card list so be it.

Learn from the past pleasssse

I was a bit surprised that there was a thousand more this week as opposed to last week against Wigan (which i have to admit sounded low), it looked about the same amount to me and certainly not another 25% again on top. Still what do we fans know.

I agree with Vasty, there looked a lot more than 5000 there. Simple.

A lot of people said the same when the attendance was announced.

Last two games I have gone down to chav corner for second half. Certainly busier down there v Hull than v Wigan. Nowhere near as busy in the ground as under the Glover years.

If I was Mr Carter & read this I would ask what I have to do with some supporters.

Maybe one day soon he will think enough is enough & let idiots like Vastman run the asylum.

Richardson don't make me laugh.

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It seemed to be a lot better than the Wigan attendance and will be bigger against Leeds onwards and upwards.

Haha the ones saying there seemed to be alot more then 5100 next game walk around the ground and do an head count if your so concerned about attendance instead of saying it looked like there were more there to me it looked bang on 5100 haha

Could anyone translate this for me please.

You remember in the film Rainman, when Tom Cruise dropped the matches on the floor? ...........that about sums it up.

As old age approaches, Vastman is becoming the "Stevo" of the message boards.

It's people like you who have allowed the club to get in the mess it has over the years by never questioning. All those mentioned were great guys at one point, Pearman, Richardson and Glover were all cheered to the rafters by "idiots" (your word not mine) like you.

How many people were saying "If I was Mr GLOVER & read this I would ask what I have to do with some supporters" 18 month ago, I bet you were though I'm certain you'll deny it. So now according to "idiots" like you "idiots" like me should again carry on unquestionably following our latest leader - unbelievable.

Personally nothing against your new messiah seems to be doing a decent job so far but I'll reserve judgement for a few years yet - just as I did with Glover which as it turned out wasn't a bad idea for an "idiot".

I'm afraid Mr Briggs the only ghostly thing about you is what lurks between your ears, that appeared to have died years ago.

Nowhere near as many cliches used thank you very much

What a surprise

I meant stating the exact opposite of the general consensus, with no real belief just an urge to stir.

I know what you meant, though I do believe in what I say even though you're quite right about the stirring and IMHO it needs doing. If I and a few others didn't this forum would cease to be the powerful outlet for fans feelings or the excellent vehicle it has proved to be for uncovering wrong doings. Instead it would be some mutual back slapping message board where we just talk about kits and who was out on the lash last night (though that would be nice for a bit I suppose).

All the alarm bells regarding Pearman, Richardson and Glover were rung on here first (as baz will remind me). So I'll carry on like some demented woodpecker with a grudge and those who wish to ignore me, fine.

Sorry Vasty, I couldn't resist.

On this subject though, I have learned my lesson after Glover, so don't believe blindly, but I will only call someone out if I see evidence.
In this case, not only do I not see the evidence, I don't see the point either way.

As much as this makes no sense, you make the most sense (i'm guessing thats by accident)
We all get a feel for how many might be in the ground, but based on years of over and under reporting of figures and supporters real innabilities to 1. see through walls and 2. lack recent of recognition software updates, i think what we feel is in no way a scientific reasoning to argue for or against anyone.
Of course i may be wrong and you may all be super computers, but judging on what i read on here regularly, somehow i doubt it.

I'll stick with what is between my ears rather than borrow what is between yours !!!

I think we would struggle gettin a extra 5 thousand in there if that was only half full.

It's all those bottles that people have suddenly started carrying in.

well here we go again questioning the integrity of the MC and CB on whether there was the correct attendance for the game, I haven't a clue why you would attack the club in that direction not sure what your gaining as it was I was around 100 on my guess but then 35 yrs of going on and off suppose that was a lucky guess.

without getting into an argument what difference does a few extra added make, it was still with in our cap and what really worries me and you should all if you care about the club is there are still adults jumping the fencing and risking their health in the process

You're into welding Snowie, weld spikes to plates and put them inside the fence, game over!