According to some, we never bring any for that occurrence to happen.

If it rains i might not get out the 6 chimneys

As I remember, the West Stand had to go following the Bradford City fire, as it was wooden (and no one sat in it anyway). The South Stand was pulled down to make way for something fancy, but the money wasn't there, and so we played to a view of St Catherine's Street for a few years.

The fire was at Bradfords football ground where people died. Following this there was a Taylor report that said wooden stands in stadia had to be removed, hence the pulling down of the West stand.

yeah i saw that fire on a tape at school, something like a few minutes and the full stand was up, i was staggard by how fast it went up and the intensity,bloody tragic. thanks for the info guys. but getting back to the new development one of those types of meccano type statiums ala dewsbury rams surely wouldnt dent the purse to much perhaps, always like that little stadium and the grass verge for nice summer rugby

The stupidity of the club was evident even then, as the "wooden" stand was actually an iron construction, clad in wood, and did not need to be removed.

That said, it wouldn't really be fitting of a modern stadium (though Cas seem to like theirs).

Now that time has moved on, it is in fact a beautiful looking stand, a real piece of history.

As my teenage kids would say "Epic Fail!"

I was at Headingley on Friday, I must have somehow missed all the construction, dumper trucks and cranes etc..

If you're going to try sarcasm


It might help to get your facts right.

That's the BV I was born into.

TBH I'd totally forgotten about it. I'm really wrecking my brain to remember what that end looked like before the hospitality boxes were built.

If someone could post a picture that would be ace!

The roofs can go up in no time, it's digging the terrace out that will take more than a month IMO, easily doable during the off-season though.

I think the problem is that we had already borrowed to the hilt and, without the stadium being given the go-ahead, or our SL future secured, no-one would lend the club any more money and Ted had no more to provide either (if ever he did). The mortgage Ted obtained to buy the ground was granted in a different economic climate than we are in now.

Business men and banks are not easily fooled (most of the time) and the same reasons resulted in Parking getting cold feet. As those conditions (no ground yet and no SL guarantee), I could not understand why people suddenly thought that Parkin would have had a change of heart. Now if we get a licence..... who knows?

On a side note:

I know it's none of our chosen fortes but does anyone have any general knowledge of the ground requirements to enter the Blue Square Premier League in football?

Would these temporary improvements to BV meet them?

Fair enough. It doesn't alter the Plan B scenario, because we still gambled everything on Newmarket. The expenditure over two years might have been do-able, unless of course the finances were so bad that selling players was the only way to stay viable. Wasn't helped by bad business decisions, like shoving the gate price up to twenty quid and being pretty unimaginative on ticket deals. I'm sure the will was there, but maybe not the salesman's brain.

Probably quite right there, but right up until the announcement that Mr Pickles had called the plans in (and several well qualified people were telling us that wouldn't happen - even without the changes in governement policy) the gamble would have paid off. That one decision, whilst far from being the reason we were in such a precarious position, was the nail in the coffin. The events which followed were inevitable after that!

The gate price increase was a huge own-goal. I argued it at the time and got no-where. I would hope these issues would be taken up by the ST in future situations.

My biggest regret is not having a ST 3 years ago - as I firmly believe we, the supporters, could have helped keep this club afloat.

Ted didn't take advice from his own employees so he would not have taken any from the ST.
I would be interested to here how even if NM was given the go ahead, how we would have still survived, as the tax man was getting ever more dischuffed with us and the £350k from yorkourt would have been small taties compared to our escalating debts.
I think we would still be in the Shizen even if Pickles had done his man from delmonte act.

Epic Fail you say my shell suited chum?

Would you;

(A) Start construction mid season or

(B) start construction in the close season.

You may phone a friend, as I appreciate that the words "construction" and "start" could cause a little local bewilderment ....

Excuse my "headingley ignorance" but the terrace at the opposite end of the YCC car park you call a pitch from the new Carnegie stand, is it the Western Terrace? Like at YCC?
When do you plan to develop that? To keep it in keeping with the magnificence, that is or soon to be the rest of the ground.
I would have thought that would have been a priority what with it being a small section.

I can vouch for that. The cultural diversity and boho chic in Halton Moor, Seacroft, Beeston, Harehills and Gipton is truly the envy of sub-urban out of town hicks like us.

I think there are too many Legal/planning issues regarding the West Terrace to be resolved before that gets a makeover. I.A. could probably give you chapter and verse.

In any case, as it's mostly inhabited by the rougher elements within the travelling Rugby League community, the medical advice is, it's best all round not to have them coughing/wheezing/belching etc within a confined space....

The banks would have been far more lenient on us if we had a new ground being built. They would have seen that the business was moving forward and that SL status was assured. That's not really a difficult concept.

As for the ST - he would have had to listen if we had been able to secure the level of shares we had hoped for!

only one I have

'Apple pie order' never heard that one before, lights back then looked good

I think the whole ground back then looked good! What went wrong?



Just to ask nicely again, has anyone got a link to the proposals in a decent enough resolution to read the writing? I'd quite like to see it in detail.

The South Stand was knocked down to make way for what is now the Cats Bar and a new South Stand that was going to join on to the Cats Bar. The old stand got knocked down but then something happened with the finances and nothing was put there until the Flats arrived with Pearman

Cheers TRT

Can anyone date the picture above?

I would guess 1967 when the first floodlightrs were installed

The picture was taken on the 2nd October 1967 two days before they were officially unveiled for the Yorkshire V Australian clash, which still probably is one of the finest games ever at BV when Carl Dooler and Neil Fox ripped the Aussies to bit's.