I'd have been happy with that last season.
I think we tended to be 5 drives and just hand the ball over.

Half the time we don't even have an attacking line, just a rabble

Standing flat as been my gripe for years.
Difficult to score when near the line because it just becomes a game of shove.
Generally we are out muscled in this area.
Lying a little deeper and running onto a ball without a man about to clatter you simply changes the dynamic in favour of the attacking team.
We don't learn what isn't working or have the individuals to step inside a player to create a gap. Hope CC watches the coaching manual as used by the more successful teams.

This game is definitely winnable.
The only victory for Leeds cam at our expense, in a game that Trinity, despite being busted, could and should have won.
We will be much stronger in the pack this time around and with a couple of bodies back, we CAN do the business.
Confidence wont be great for either side and it's up to our senior players to stand up.
Assuming he's fit, I'd have senior back, hopefully with Johnstone on the other wing



The first of 4 HUGE, HUGE games for us.

Come on Trin !

Yes, hopefully we have a couple of bodies returning after couple of weeks off, the only problem is Leeds players have also had time to refresh. I’m not sure if they still have a couple of players still suspended for this game.

Yes I believe they do have a few returning including Luke Gale.

Yep, Tetevano and Myler still banned for us

Been saying the same thing myself for years also, ric. Big Dave should be running at speed for at least 10m before receiving the ball. His momentum should then take him at least another 15m.. A flat line and receiving the ball standing still achieves nothing

If we are to survive we have to win 2 of our next 4

Sadly, even as it's the basics, we've not been very good at it, starting with the forwards not running onto the ball, and the wingers driving it in too often. All for the backs to take it in, but there has been instances when the whole set, as been taken up by the backs

I'm not usually one for advocating ultimatums and in the past have been the eternal optimist - 'we'll turn the corner' BUT even I'm at the point where the time has come for a win!
I don't know what's wrong - Bad coaching? Players not playing to gameplan? Players not fit? some players don't care? Injuries?
You can pick and mix but it's probably a bit of everything, although to be fair the players have seemingly stepped up in the last couple of games.You can analyse it as you wish as to what's causing the terrible run, but what we all surely agree on, is that it has to end, and pronto!
If there is no win in the next couple of games, then in my book, it's time for a change, because spectators will not return to watch a team getting beaten in every game, and that's fact.

I would be satisfied with the basics right now. 5 proper drives and a kick complimented by some of the defence shown this year would see us see us take the 2 points on a few occasions.

The strategy of firing the backs/wingers in for the first few tackles just doesn’t work as it used to and I think even more so for us, as at the moment we’re often starting off on the back foot 10m from our own line.

I remember seeing the likes of Cockayne and Fox often break through the line and put us in a really good position or even score.

Just had a look at the fixtures. Leeds, Hull KR, Huddersfield and then Warrington. Massive 3 weeks coming up, we need a win out of the first three.

Sad but in reality if we can pick up a few points and also beat Leigh, we just might be safe come the end of the season.

I remember when sending the Wingers/Centres in for drives on the first play or first and second play was to give the forwards a rest, these days, the forwards don`t even seem to do much!

Baffles me we stick with it regardless, the other week we conceded 2 consecutive Goal Line Dropouts because we thought 1 metre from our own line, under massive pressure, our best idea was to send Innes Senior in... That ball goes to Tanginoa, who is there ready to take the ball, we don`t concede cheap possession like that.

I was just going to mention this myself, Timmy. The idea of making the wing men take the ball forward in the first two tackles started at the time of the two wingers that you mention. It was quite a successful tactic at the time, but seems less effective now that it has become commonplace. Although TJ tends to use the move to good effect at times.

Chester wants all the backs to do 20 carries and at least 100m per match which is stupid its the forwards job.

I don't think Chester knows that there are different positions, and that those different positions require different skill sets and attributes.

Why don’t you apply for the position of Coach, you must have plenty of coaching qualifications, I say “put up or shut up”

Because I enjoy being successful at my current job, though I'm pretty convinced I could match Chester's 2021 win rate

Chief Exec at Moaners Inc?

Course he is...just in time to kick the winning dg in another disappointing close encounter we should have won by 10

We don’t have much luck do we lol.

Gale back early from injury first game.
Tomkins returned against us last week and put in some good assists.
Gale returns again in a rudderless Leeds team since he’s been injured.

Still we need to be targeting this Leeds game and making it our first win of the season.

I agree...focus on the positives we'll take from beating a fully fit Leeds team that includes Gayle & his dg's

Point 1, gale was probably the worst leeds player on the pitch in first game even laying on a try for tommy
Point 2 but whitley who is a better player was missing instead
Point 3 leeds aint been any better with gale

We have got to stop blaming bad luck you make ya own luck in anything in life fact is where on a 8 streak losing run (counting the last 2 games from last season)and somthing like 8 wins in 43.......

See my post on the shame & pride thread and you'll see I'm certainly not blaming bad luckicon_smile.gif