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| Quote ="jtfev"I know who is running there club right at the moment and has been for a few year now'"
Don't usually hear Cas Tigers getting praise from a Fev fan.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"Don't usually hear Cas Tigers getting praise from a Fev fan.
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| Quote ="jtfev"If that is the case then so be it but in 2015 we will have the chance and if we are good enough we will take it if not we stay where we are. Your team will have nothing to worry about if it is superior to ours on and of the field in the Wakey area but I know who is running there club right at the moment and has been for a few year now'"
There is a huge difference between running Semi Pro and fulltime clubs. Its well documented for any club to be sustainable at SL it needs gates around 10K. At Wakey we are far from that but the potential is there. At Fev it will never happen you are just fooling yourselves.
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| Quote ="jtfev"If that is the case then so be it but in 2015 we will have the chance and if we are good enough we will take it if not we stay where we are. Your team will have nothing to worry about if it is superior to ours on and of the field in the Wakey area but I know who is running there club right at the moment and has been for a few year now'"
So you finish top of the Championship in 2015, enter the 8 team middle league with 4 SL teams and come up short you'd be happy? Considering the SL teams will be better prepared with bigger playing budgets and players that are well above the game pace of the Championship. I would bet a pound to a penny that after the first season, when in all probability the top 4 of the middle will be the bottom 4 from SL these forums will be all abuzz with the Championship team fans claiming foul play at how unfair it is on them.
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| Quote ="deeHell"So you finish top of the Championship in 2015, enter the 8 team middle league with 4 SL teams and come up short you'd be happy? Considering the SL teams will be better prepared with bigger playing budgets and players that are well above the game pace of the Championship. I would bet a pound to a penny that after the first season, when in all probability the top 4 of the middle will be the bottom 4 from SL these forums will be all abuzz with the Championship team fans claiming foul play at how unfair it is on them.'"
Hmm, coz we really stuffed it up Fev last Sunday!
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| Quote ="deeHell"So you finish top of the Championship in 2015, enter the 8 team middle league with 4 SL teams and come up short you'd be happy? Considering the SL teams will be better prepared with bigger playing budgets and players that are well above the game pace of the Championship. I would bet a pound to a penny that after the first season, when in all probability the top 4 of the middle will be the bottom 4 from SL these forums will be all abuzz with the Championship team fans claiming foul play at how unfair it is on them.'"
The funding yet to be decided but if we come short so be it we stay where we are the club will of made a lot more income for the middle 8 mini league and we will have more revenue to build the club stronger and try again in 2016
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| Quote ="jack in the box"And all those years prior to that when winning the league would have given you promotion. Your team could not hack it then. You had years of opportunity to get into the top league but were never good enough. In fact you came close one evening in Huddersfield but choked
Your club is nothing more than a village side that punches above its weight now and again but it will never have the resources to compete with the top clubs ever again.'"
I can smell the fear
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| Quote ="Mikey T"I can smell the fear'"
You might want to clear that up then. Fevs backsides do normally fall out when the pressure is on.
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| Quote ="Mikey T"I can smell the fear'"
Then I suggest you return to Fev the smell filth will mask it out
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| Quote ="El Rey""waiting to hear what the fate of the 4 clubs at the very bottom "
I bet the Fev fans don't care and have not even thought about them.'"
Yes because wakey really cared about other clubs all these years.
I'd like us all to be successful but also on an even playing field
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| Quote ="Fev 1979"Yes because wakey really cared about other clubs all these years.
I'd like us all to be successful but also on an even playing field'"
Talking of even playing fields, get yours sorted,
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| Quote ="jack in the box"There is a huge difference between running Semi Pro and fulltime clubs. Its well documented for any club to be sustainable at SL it needs gates around 10K. At Wakey we are far from that but the potential is there. At Fev it will never happen you are just fooling yourselves.'"
How long do you need to achieve your potential and it will be interesting to see your crowds are this year now your not giving discounted season tickets for the season Regarding the 10K crowds not many get them but clubs are still here so I don't know who came up with that figure
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| Quote ="jtfev"Regarding the 10K crowds not many get them but clubs are still here so I don't know who came up with that figure'"
There is another club not too far from Fev that has crowds of around 6K average (something Fev will never achieve)
and that club is given a wedge of money every year to keep it going, this season it was £500K. If everyone in your little village sold their houses they would never raise that sum
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| Quote ="jtfev"How long do you need to achieve your potential and it will be interesting to see your crowds are this year now your not giving discounted season tickets for the season Regarding the 10K crowds not many get them but clubs are still here so I don't know who came up with that figure'"
My brother in law went to most wakey games last year on a free ticket..it may be the same at other clubs but iv never know as many folk get free or cheap tickets as wakey last season..
Although that could stop under cm as don't think he is that daft
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| Quote ="jack in the box"There is another club not too far from Fev that has crowds of around 6K average (something Fev will never achieve)
and that club is given a wedge of money every year to keep it going, this season it was £500K. If everyone in your little village sold their houses they would never raise that sum'"
That doesn't answer my question to you ( and I don't live in that little village and it isn't mine )
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| Quote ="bazzo44"Talking of even playing fields, get yours sorted,'"
Play to the conditions don't you, if you go down hill first half your up hill second half,how much more even can you get.
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| Quote ="Fev 1979"Play to the conditions don't you, if you go down hill first half your up hill second half,how much more even can you get.'"
Surely that pitch is going to be made full size and levelled out ready for the new format. As for the new format wish it would have been standard P R 2 up 2 down after a normal regular season, easier for other sports fans to understand and wouldn't have split RL fans like the 2x12 3x8s has. But this is what we have let's get on with it and support the mighty Trin. Has it been said how The 2 teams are been dropped from SL next season is it the bottom 2 or are they exceptions?
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| Quote ="Wakefield City Loyal"Surely that pitch is going to be made full size and levelled out ready for the new format. As for the new format wish it would have been standard P R 2 up 2 down after a normal regular season, easier for other sports fans to understand and wouldn't have split RL fans like the 2x12 3x8s has. But this is what we have let's get on with it and support the mighty Trin. Has it been said how The 2 teams are been dropped from SL next season is it the bottom 2 or are they exceptions?'"
It was said some months ago that there wouldn't be exceptions but, if London and Catalan finish 13 & 14th there will be hell on.
I don't wish ill fete on either club but, I'd love to be a fly on the wall at HQ if this happened or if either club faces the drop in 2015.
The whole thing is an utter disgrace and not to dissimilar to the season before SL came into being, which was the last time we were "relegated".
Many fans were lost to the game back then and some have never returned, I fear the same will happen this time around and it will be the clubs at the lower end of SL that will suffer, again.
I haven't felt so annoyed for many years, our sport is a disgrace and someone needs to convince the fans of how this will take the game forward.
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| Chomp chomp chomp
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| Just cos Fatty Asa amone knocked on and Oddy gave the call all those years ago
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| Just out of interest if P&R was brought back using a 2 up 2 down system,how would you work the finances out ,IE,would you have a sliding scale of payment from 1 to 24 or even 1 to 28?
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| Let's keep the bickering to a minimum guys.
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| This has certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons! I think we can safely say more are disappointed and angry than happy.
I certainly wanted P&R to bring back some excitement/anxiety to relegation battles. One of the most memorable games I have attended was certainly V Castleford in the relegation year. In addition clubs with strong ambitions like Fev, Sheffield, Halifax, Leigh etc deserve a chance in SL if they hit the promotion criteria. In whichever format that is in. However I like most wouldn't have what is being proposed in its entirety.
Against popular opinion I kind of like the splitting of the teams into 3x8. We could end up in a group with Castleford, Bradford, Fev, Sheffield, Halifax and it would be a Right royal battle. It would hopefully generate increased revenue for the championship teams and add a bit of spice.
However I'm not sure a league format is the best option. I also, as people have rightly pointed out dont think it is right for 9 & 10 in SL to face relegation. You could miss out on a top 8 finish by points difference and be relegated in the same year. Not fair at all.
If we had a 3 x 8 competition for me it would mainly be, to play for a separate Cup/shield with only the two bottom SL and two top CH playing for promotion/relegation.
As a plate competition I would go Quarter Finals 9 & 10 Super League getting home advantage over 3 & 4 Championship & 1 & 2 championship would get home advantage over 11 & 12 Super League. Followed by a Semi final and final.
As for the relegation part i would either go; As part of the Cup QF The winners of the 1 & 2 v 11 & 12 go into Superleague or simply bottom 2 go down and top 2 come up.
I feel the embarrassment that may come under the current format would be if a 9th placed Superleague club be relegated & 4th placed Championship club be promoted.
Or we could simply revert to 1 up 1 down. I just like the idea of a separate plate competition.
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| Excellent post Mick but, how much kudos will there actually be in winning the "plate" competition.
After all, it only shows that you are the 9th best club in the RL world.
There will be some real spice in the games and with the top 4 of the CC likely to be Fev, Fax, Sheffield and Batley, every game will be a derby.
However the fundamental point is that we will effectively be relegated (to the 2nd and there is nothing that we can do about it.
After all the heroics of MC and his team, this is a real kick in the teeth for our club.
NB. not only could a club be relegated from 9th in SL but, a club could be promoted from 4th in the CC.
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| X factor comes to RFL' what a crock of ....
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