Williams has kicked them from out wide before.

Max was taking the mickey out of TJ on Twitter too.
Sent him a picture of a safe pair of hands.

Does anyone else think it's no coincidence that the only game we have been comprehensively beaten in was the one Finn played no part in?

It was funny when Tom got his second try, as soon as the ball was in his hands Carney said "that's a try". It's great to have so much pace out wide. It seems a long time since our wingers got a ball on there own 20m line and I was supremely confident that we'd score, happy days.

Enjoy the victory, is a young a winger not allowed a bit of slack, only at Wakefield can we find a negative when there was so much to praise.

Reminds me very much of the Martin Offiah era when the crowd would lift when he took the ball. Very exiting and good to see his self reflection of his performance.

You maybe right but I don't think it helped having just a five day turnaround either.

No it's called not reading posts properly - at no point did i ever say TJ or anyone else was above criticism - I said this was not one of those moments - there is a world of difference.

He missed some sitters it true but it wasn't a lack of effort just one of those days but boy he made up for it with two interceptions.. that reaction alone speaks volumes for the lad and deserves praise not sniping.

Name me another player in our squad who's head wouldn't have gone down - I can't only TJ has that level of self belief.

To me pop tarts reaction was typical trim, it won't be until he's gone that some will finally realise what we have in this lad - a genuine competitor.

In the meantime we'll pick up on every little fault, dwell on it for weeks and forget to enjoy the positives - thank you for listening

Completely OTT. Tom had a poor game by his own standards but is blessed with the ability to make amends to some degree. His talent is outstanding, but he's only human. We were lucky it wasn't a close game, but Tom will come back stronger!

Sorry Phil but no I'm not having that, he didn't have a poor game he scored two blistering tries for a start. He missed three good opportunities but only one was a walk in. Rest of his game was sound. It's not me being OTT it's you I'm afraid.

You're a father and that's a bit like being a coach, do you point out every single mistake your lad makes? I know you don't and the same applies to players especially younger ones. There is a time and a place for kicking and yesterday was not it - TJ's self punishment was enough IMHO.

There was one Trinity player on the park yesterday who on that showing though through no fault of his own needs putting out to grass - but why make an issue of it now, we won so I won't even though I now sort of have.

Wow - what's being a dad got to with anything? He missed 3 chances, 2 you would normally expect him to take. He also got in a poor position on a couple of occasions defensively! Ask Tom if he thought he had a good game - I know he doesn't think that as he has said it himself! So what's the problem with us acknowledging reality?

I also thought Finn was poor - he gave away at least 3 cheap penalties. I'm not gonna blow smoke for the sake of it.

To balance the books, I thought Kirmo and Ashurst were outstanding, Big Dave was strong all game and Williams, Tupou and Arundel went well with Bish catching the eye!

This forum exists to voice opinions. This is mine. Thank you!

I will give you Finn gave a couple of silly penalties away but he is the only pivot who can steer the team around the park without him on the field we struggle with game management

There's a mock incredulity overload in this thread

bunch of bladdy dramarama queens

nobody's bagging TJ, they're voicing their observations, now lets stop wetting our knickers and smooth it out, s'like rag day on mumsnet

Kirmond outstanding - Finn poor, now you're taking the mick!

Your's is an opinion it would seem, mine is not apparently - this is very much a two tier forum these days isn't it.

Anyways I'll enjoy great win whilst we are still getting them, I'm sure a genuine reason for a misery fest will come along soon enough.

Do you ever post a worthwhile comment, why don't you stick to posting your trite nonsense on faceache or ter or wherever it is you came from.

On a positive note, at least there's been no Leigh fans on this week!

I don't know, I reckon they would still be more positive than some on here.

Remind me, we did go to France and thrash Catalans or am I missing something

Why are we not allowed to comment when we win.
It's not like anyone is saying he is a bad player or that the things he did well weren't good. He just made some uncharacteristic mistakes. It was very clear. Commented on by all the Sky team in a complimentary way.
No one wants him dropped. No one has said it stopped the enjoyment of the win.

If Fifita plays next week without his shorts should we not mention it as he normally does wear them and we like him?

Where did I say anything about your opinion? You had a dig at folk for theirs, no thanks the other way round.

Kirmo did some great work!

I'm happy - never said otherwise - but always room for improvement!

One thing the extended discussion about TJ has done is taken the gloss away from BJB.
His tries were all excellent and all needed scoring.
He is a strange runner as to me he doesn't look to be running fast but no one catches him and he really knows how to score them.
I wonder who works on those skills in our back room team. I know some teams specifically train for the one handed scores in the corner and TJ and BJB are so good at it that we have to be focusing on it......but none of the coaching look like it's their area of expertise. Good for them whoever it is.
Ironically Agar got a lot of plaudits from other coaches on this kind of skills training and is why Warrington wanted him.

Trb is correct,kirmo was top draw ,finn gave away 4 /5 penalties very poor

Surly mc must offer bjb a new contract,hes Worth every penny

I thought it was an outstanding performance by the lads, but kirmond was a big weakness those who say he played well are living in the past,johstone could have had 4 tries but the two he scored were top drawer ,never100% sure about jones bishop but the kid played well ,arundell another i didnt rate but again had a good game miller a kid i rate highley has got to be in the 17 and in hubey and ashurst weve got 2 top notch forwards

Yes he gave some ill timed penalties away but to say Finn was very poor is nonsense imo