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| Also, if Aiton is in the squad and fails a fitness test he is allowed to bring another player into the 19.
If you start with Ellis and Aiton passes his fitness test you can't change your mind.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Wildie should be playing. He should be our first choice hooker. He has been fantastic in the under 20`s and deserves a place in the first team, whats the point of the reserves if not to pressure the coach to pick in form players . Aiton has been poor at hooker ( good at back row ) Wood is only trusted with about 20 mins game time and is not a patch on Wildie. Ellis is of the radar. What more does Wildie have to do. It seems that the starting 17 that have managed 1 win from 5 get selected no matter what. I presume that Collis is in the squad because he is now fit and will kick goals.'"
This.
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| Quote ="jack in the box"Bang on. We have loads of cover at Hooker why even bother just give the bloke a rest to get it right and come back firing 100% for Les cats.
Same for Collis, he's not been right since Widnes, shouldn't even have played last week. We have cover rest him.
Makes you really wonder if 10,000 Hull fans were right.'"
After watching the last few"dull"performances,strange selections and a general lack of passion,im inclined to believe the Hull supporters were correct and weve made one almighty c0ck up by giving him a three year deal.
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| Agar has gone on record saying he is going to maintain a settled side in the meantime to allow the players as much time as possible to get an understanding, which is understandable, however naming someone with a question mark over their fitness in a position where the club have an abundance of options is a weird one.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Wildie should be playing. He should be our first choice hooker. He has been fantastic in the under 20`s and deserves a place in the first team, whats the point of the reserves if not to pressure the coach to pick in form players . [uAiton has been poor at hooker ( good at back row ) Wood is only trusted with about 20 mins game time and is not a patch on Wildie[/u. Ellis is of the radar. What more does Wildie have to do. It seems that the starting 17 that have managed 1 win from 5 get selected no matter what. I presume that Collis is in the squad because he is now fit and will kick goals.'"
You watch a different game to me mate.
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| Quote ="PopTart"You watch a different game to me mate.'"
I have to agree.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Wildie should be playing. He should be our first choice hooker. He has been fantastic in the under 20`s and deserves a place in the first team, whats the point of the reserves if not to pressure the coach to pick in form players . Aiton has been poor at hooker ( good at back row ) Wood is only trusted with about 20 mins game time and is not a patch on Wildie. Ellis is of the radar. What more does Wildie have to do. It seems that the starting 17 that have managed 1 win from 5 get selected no matter what. I presume that Collis is in the squad because he is now fit and will kick goals.'"
Aiton poor at hooker? I think he's has been outstanding - just shows you how differently people view players!
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| Quote ="sandaltrinityfan"Aiton poor at hooker? I think he's has been outstanding - just shows you how differently people view players!'"
Aiton is a fantastic player, but he stifles our game from hooker and our best work (and his) is done when released from those shackles!
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| Quote ="TRB"Aiton is a fantastic player, but he stifles our game from hooker and our best work (and his) is done when released from those shackles!'"
lol that's codswallop imo.
As for Ellis, wasn't he injured a few weeks ago?
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| I just hope Southern is back in second row so we get an accurate picture of what he can do in his favoured position. He admitted a lack of form on Yorkshire Radio the other night when thinking about the Exiles (no chance on what I've seen so far).
Hope Ellis gets a chance and brought in after Aiton fails fitness. Mellars continues despite his poor form and still no recognised kicker even from reserves?....
Welcome back Kyle!!
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| Quote ="Wildthing"I have to agree.'"
There's a whole load of agreeing going on here because I agree too
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| The decision to leave Ellis/Wilde out seems all the stranger, given that Aiton apparently hasn't trained all week.
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| Calm down ladies and gents, Agar will call up either Ellis or Wildie if Aiton fails the test
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| Quote ="Willzay"Calm down ladies and gents, Agar will call up either Ellis or Wildie if Aiton fails the test'"
For me thats not good enough, i like Aiton but if he's not 100% and he can't be then why not bring in Ellis if fit or give Wildie the run he's earned before he gets fed up with not getting a look in.
Aitons not the be all and end all of WTW.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"For me thats not good enough, i like Aiton but if he's not 100% and he can't be then why not bring in Ellis if fit or give Wildie the run he's earned before he gets fed up with not getting a look in.
Aitons not the be all and end all of WTW.'"
Agree with you Al. If Aiton hasnt trained all week he simply should not be considered for selection - end of.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"For me thats not good enough, i like Aiton but if he's not 100% and he can't be then why not bring in Ellis if fit or give Wildie the run he's earned before he gets fed up with not getting a look in.
Aitons not the be all and end all of WTW.'"
Why? Probably because Agar signed Aiton, the other two were someone elses.
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| As previously pointed out its about tactics some posters and fans of our club make me wonder why we bother with RL
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| Quote ="REDWHITEANDBLUE"As previously pointed out its about tactics some posters and fans of our club make me wonder why we bother with RL'"
I see no reason why we should not question selections and tatics, its a forum for people to agree or disagree, just because we question what happens does not make us bad supporters, in fact i rather think its more challenging than just towing the line and not really having any views.
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| Quote ="bellycouldtackle"Wildie should be playing. He should be our first choice hooker. He has been fantastic in the under 20`s and deserves a place in the first team, whats the point of the reserves if not to pressure the coach to pick in form players . Aiton has been poor at hooker ( good at back row ) Wood is only trusted with about 20 mins game time and is not a patch on Wildie. Ellis is of the radar. What more does Wildie have to do. It seems that the starting 17 that have managed 1 win from 5 get selected no matter what. I presume that Collis is in the squad because he is now fit and will kick goals.'"
There's no way Aiton's been rubbish, strange comment, like someone else said your watching a different game to me. Wood's been one of our best players so far this season and I also like Wildie but there's no way you can say Wood isn't a patch on him because it's blatantly not true.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"For me thats not good enough, i like Aiton but if he's not 100% and he can't be then why not bring in Ellis if fit or give Wildie the run he's earned before he gets fed up with not getting a look in.
Aitons not the be all and end all of WTW.'"
It seems no one knows if Ellis has fully recovered from his injury yet. I agree with Agar that the team need time together but against Warrington it was a ideal chance to get one or two fresh faces involved, change things up a little and keep people on their toes.
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| what i can't understand is why ellis hasn't been given a chance.
His OPTA stats last year suggest hes a good player and I beleive he won quins players player of the year last season.
If Aiton is not fully fit surely it gives agar the chance to see how he goes in a game we are unlikely to win and save Aiton for Cas.
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| Quote ="CORONET KING"what i can't understand is why ellis hasn't been given a chance.
His OPTA stats last year suggest hes a good player and I beleive he won quins players player of the year last season.
If Aiton is not fully fit surely it gives agar the chance to see how he goes in a game we are unlikely to win and save Aiton for Cas.'"
This.
Let's be honest, we have very little chance of winning this game. Can't see how a not fully fit Aiton is a better option than either Ellis or Wildie. What does it say to those two players that someone who hasn't trained all week is ahead of them in the pecking order. I know we can bring one in if Aiton fails fitness test but it still doesn't send a great message to them that he still gets chosen first when not fully fit.
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| If Alton has not trained all week he should not be in the squad I would go Ellis with Wildie off the bench with Wood at scrum half
I also expect us to give Wire a decent game they have a fair few injuries etc I do not expect us to just roll over and let them get 40 plus If we get beat this week and next Agar will be under real pressure for London/Cas
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| Quote ="GET EM ON SIDE REF"If Alton has not trained all week he should not be in the squad I would go Ellis with Wildie off the bench with Wood at scrum half
I also expect us to give Wire a decent game they have a fair few injuries etc I do not expect us to just roll over and let them get 40 plus If we get beat this week and next Agar will be under real pressure for London/Cas'"
Disagree, again. I should not be under pressure yet
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| Quote ="PopTart"Disagree, again. I should not be under pressure yet'"
You are richard agar and i claim my £5
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