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| As long as he doesn't get injured it's a opposed training session for him to blow the cobwebs off. Worth the risk.
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| Individually, I think Croft has done well for his debut. Clearly shown he is capable if/when called upon.
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| Hard luck lads. Was always mission impossible
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"To be fair, I don't think Brough is 100% yet. It was clearly a gamble playing him so soon.'"
If he can’t tackle yet, he shouldn’t have played. That first try pretty much set the afternoon up for Saints.
And now our dismal run in this competition continues.
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| Quote ="Willzay"If he can’t tackle yet, he shouldn’t have played. That first try pretty much set the afternoon up for Saints.
And now our dismal run in this competition continues.'"
My question isn’t about Brough being ready or Chester’s decision to play him when he clearly couldn’t tackle using his injured hand.
My question is that if a clearly undercooked and unfit Brough is still viewed as better than our other halfback options then why have we signed those players?
For the last 4 or 5 Trinity have desperately needed QUALITY halfback cover yet we continue to sign back rowers. If we want to kick on and challenge the latter stages of the competitions then we need to bite the bullet and pay the price for a top quality halfback.
Anything else is playing at it and giving lip service, nothing more!
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| Quote ="The Avenger"My question isn’t about Brough being ready or Chester’s decision to play him when he clearly couldn’t tackle using his injured hand.
My question is that if a clearly undercooked and unfit Brough is still viewed as better than our other halfback options then why have we signed those players?
For the last 4 or 5 Trinity have desperately needed QUALITY halfback cover yet we continue to sign back rowers. If we want to kick on and challenge the latter stages of the competitions then we need to bite the bullet and pay the price for a top quality halfback.
Anything else is playing at it and giving lip service, nothing more!'"
Totally agree with you there avenger.
The only person on the field today that looked like creating anything was a bloke in his very late 30's and not fully fit. I think we are taking a massive risk if we are going to rely totally on him for one more season. Because other than Fifita its hard to think who will create anything.
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| It was obvious we'd probably get well beaten today. Already people are reading more into it than necessary.
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| Bulls would have beaten Saints today.
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| Quote ="Bulls4Champs"Bulls would have beaten Saints today.'"
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| I know Saints were the better side and deserved their win but watching it back on BBC it was a right Saints love fest from the pundits , sickly
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I know Saints were the better side and deserved their win but watching it back on BBC it was a right Saints love fest from the pundits , sickly
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Don’t matter the broadcaster they are always up the Aris’ of the big clubs but fair enough today I suppose
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| Quote ="Big lads mate"I know Saints were the better side and deserved their win but watching it back on BBC it was a right Saints love fest from the pundits , sickly
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BBCstarted with a Saints montage, nothing about Wakefield. Build up was 90% Saints. Got sick of listening to Dave Woods and Davies constant drooling over Saints. Kear was the only one really coming up with some positive comments for us. Amor on tv panel, no one from Wakey. Don't want special treatment, just a balance.
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| The booing of danny kirmond by the sts fans today was appalling, he's being an amazing SL servant and is one of the most genuine and honest players in the game
For them to boo him when he was so badly injured is shocking, the sts fans are an embarrassment to the game
I won't mention the continuous shouts for forward passes either
Very poor taste
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| Just sat through the recording. Game lost when Hampshire lost ball and Saints went full length to set up subsequent try. Comeback chance lost when Wood lost ball following tackle from Lomax.
The script had been written well before match day. Wakey stuck to it. Once again, maybe next season?
Kirmond really is shot though these days. Every time he goes in to a collision you expect him to get injured.
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| Quote ="musson"The booing of danny kirmond by the sts fans today was appalling, he's being an amazing SL servant and is one of the most genuine and honest players in the game
For them to boo him when he was so badly injured is shocking, the sts fans are an embarrassment to the game
I won't mention the continuous shouts for forward passes either
Very poor taste'"
They weren't booing at Kirmond, I'd be disgusted if I thought that. When he got injured it was clearly his leg as that was what the medics were working on. The cameras then panned in on Chester and he was animatedly hitting his head with his hand clearly indicating that they should say it was a head injury so that he could have the 15 minutes break to see if he'd be OK. Totally understandable from a coach dealing with your injury list, just unfortunate that it was clearly shown on screen.
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| Quote ="Saint_Claire"They weren't booing at Kirmond, I'd be disgusted if I thought that. When he got injured it was clearly his leg as that was what the medics were working on. The cameras then panned in on Chester and he was animatedly hitting his head with his hand clearly indicating that they should say it was a head injury so that he could have the 15 minutes break to see if he'd be OK. Totally understandable from a coach dealing with your injury list, just unfortunate that it was clearly shown on screen.'" load of bollox twice the crowd boo'd when clearly the second time he had hit his head of a hip in the tackle
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| Quote ="snowie"load of bollox twice the crowd boo'd when clearly the second time he had hit his head of a hip in the tackle'"
And was clutching his leg.
Game shouldn’t have been stopped.
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| Chester clearly didn’t do that at all...you could see he was questioning whether or not it was a head injury or not and whether he needed to come off...don’t make things up to make him look like a cheat when he isn’t!...
FWIW I thought the crowd were booing because the referee wrongly stopped play when they were in an attacking position when it was only a leg injury...2nd time it was rightly stopped though for the head knock which ended his game...
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| Quote ="Willzay"I'm still fuming how Brough pretty much ducked out at tackling Lomax to give them a stroll in for heir first try.'"
No complaints about that. Brough isn't in the team to defend.
The issue is the problem Wake had respecting possession. Brough can't do anything without the ball.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No complaints about that. Brough isn't in the team to defend.
The issue is the problem Wake had respecting possession. Brough can't do anything without the ball.'"
EVERY player is in the team to defend or, at least they should be.
Of course you wouldn't put your halves in the middle but, you would expect them to be tackling their opposite number.
On the game itself, with the patched up side that Trinity put out, especially with the late withdrawal of MCB, we never looked like we would have enough to win the game.
Even with a full squad to pick from, this would have been a tough ask but, as we were, it was always a question of how many Saints would win by.
The bookies had Trinity with 20 points start and even that didn't look enough and so it proved.
Saints played well today, especially in the first half but, were never tested.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"And was clutching his leg.
Game shouldn’t have been stopped.'"
We were close to that first incident, the player had a knock to the knee and got up on all fours to ease it off. The trainer came on and told him to lie down and it looked as though he indicated a head knock to the touch judge. By that time the tackle was 65 metres away and I assume the touch judge relayed head knock to the ref who decided to stop play. That was what the fans were booing for because it looked as though the officials had been conned as saints were 10 metres from the try line.
The second incident was a straight forward head knock and I dont think the home fans responded as much as the first incident despite the fans seeing it with a bit of suspicion.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"EVERY player is in the team to defend or, at least they should be.
Of course you wouldn't put your halves in the middle but, you would expect them to be tackling their opposite number.
On the game itself, with the patched up side that Trinity put out, especially with the late withdrawal of MCB, we never looked like we would have enough to win the game.
Even with a full squad to pick from, this would have been a tough ask but, as we were, it was always a question of how many Saints would win by.
The bookies had Trinity with 20 points start and even that didn't look enough and so it proved.
Saints played well today, especially in the first half but, were never tested.'"
Yes you are correct.
I should have said....he's not in the team to tackle. However defend is different.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"No complaints about that. Brough isn't in the team to defend.
The issue is the problem Wake had respecting possession. Brough can't do anything without the ball.'"
Isn’t in the team to defend now that’s a classic. That’s why yesterday rocky pulled off 3 or 4 try savers and jowitt did last week cause people aren’t doing their job.
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| Quote ="MOPSEY LIVES ON"Isn’t in the team to defend now that’s a classic. That’s why yesterday rocky pulled off 3 or 4 try savers and jowitt did last week cause people aren’t doing their job.'"
You see I already said I was wrong and changed defend to tackle.
I cannot answer for your eyesight.
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